Transcript Document
“Current and Future Trends in Jobs for
Veterinary Pathologists”
Co-Chairs:
Drs. Jon Werner (Amgen) and Kevin Lahmers (Washington St. Univ)
Panelists:
Drs. Chris Clarke (Amgen), John Cullen (NC St Univ), Kevin Keane
(Consultant), Kevin Lahmers, Charles Wood (EPA), and Aaron Sargeant
(CRL)
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Introduction (5 min)
Brief statements from panelists (20 min)
◦ Please hold questions
Open discussion (35 min)
◦ Before talking, please ID yourself
Continued discussion over cocktails
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Paraphrased opinion from Terry Leyden from the Leyden Group, a
private recruiting firm in toxicology for over 30 years, and supporter
of the ACVP/STP coalition:
Through 2008, there was a healthy job market for early career
pathologists.
Since that time, this market has virtually disappeared due to:
◦ Large and mid sized pharma reducing staff and small biotech lacking funding.
◦ CROs having work volume drop, and sufficient staffing.
◦ Experienced pathologists leaving industry and offering consulting services.
However, there will be a large number of experienced pathologists
retiring soon - "brain drain". Companies should consider succession
planning.
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Hiring in Academia
Dr. John Cullen, NC State
Davis/Penn
NCSU
Hiring level
empty positions filled
No new positions created
Qualifications
PhD generally required
High level of competition
Lots of good diagnosticians
available
Desirables
Research training/program
High level of competition
Vet Schools contracting
slightly due to state funding
issues
Some new positions
available, but…
Need to have the right niche
Specialized diagnostic skills
Research program
Tox path depends on
regional support
In the past year, there has been a significant
uptick in jobs posted
There are a lot of people looking
Do things to help yourself stand out
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Boards
PhD
Teaching experience
Specialize-to an extent
It is currently largely about fit in the current
buyer’s market
Qualifications – DVM, DACVP, PhD…..
Experience – drug discovery and development
◦ DABT, MD
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Discovery science – peer engagement
Tox Path – characterization, interpretation, risk assessment
Drug development projects
Technology-savvy, integrate data
Pharma CRO academia
Management/leadership
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Team player
“Leadership”
Problem solver, critical thinker
Proactive
Communication skills
Inquisitive
Adaptive
Behaviors
Flexibility
Team player with broad
skills and interests
How are these influences changing pathology?
- genomics, paraprofessionals, automated
slide reading, 3R’s, offshoring, …
Widespread tightening of science/R&D
budgets across federal agencies
Pressure on basic science and bench
pathology roles
More emphasis on translational scientist and
advisor roles
Traditional pathology skills important,
bridge skills critical
◦ Examples: Toxicology,
Molecular biology/Biomarkers,
Computational biology/Informatics
Pharma Tox. Pathology: In-depth Tox Path knowledge
of a drug class or target
GLP Lab Animal Veterinarian: Team effort to have
animals & facility for tox studies
Drug Program Leader: Team effort to move a novel
compound to clinical trials
CRO Pathology: In-depth Tox Path knowledge of
spontaneous vs. test article findings
International: Understanding how to work & teach in
China & India
Society of Tox Path: Source of continuous learning and
consortium building
2012
2011
2010
2009
2008
2007
Corp. A
35
25
(380)
37
(596)
104
Corp. B
4
105
(32)
100
205
196
2006
2005
2004
2003
2002
2001
Corp. A
82
68
32
18
34
26
Corp. B
154
140
112
83
67
48
Net
Income
Net
Income