12th APNIC Open Policy Meeting
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APNIC NIR Meeting
What is an NIR?
Paul Wilson, APNIC
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Background – NIR Meetings
Initiated as informal hostmaster session
For policy review, training, networking (1999)
Became gradually more structured
Wider issues, agendas, and reports (2000)
Chaired by Seung-Min Lee, KRNIC
Now held as open sessions
Since proposed and agreed in KL (3/2001)
Chair: Akinori Maemura, JPNIC
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Background – NIR Meetings
Major topics …
Operational and hostmaster matters
Original purpose of meeting
Now move to “Hostmaster Workshop”
NIR staff exchange
Coordinating and reporting on NIR staff visits to
APNIC
NIR policies
Review, comparison, and refinement
Intention to converge on consistent policies
Allocation procedures - “agent model”
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Background – NIR Meetings
Major topics, continued …
NIR fee and membership structure
Concerns about voting and fee issues
KL Meeting: response from APNIC EC
Criteria for new NIRs
Review and comparison with existing NIRs
Ongoing discussion: What is an NIR?
KL, March 2001
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What is an NIR?
Or: Where is an NIR?
APNIC
NIR
Somewhere between RIR and LIR
But where? …
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LIR
What is an NIR?
Where is an NIR?
NIR LIR
APNIC
Closer to RIR member?
Yes:
Pay member fees
Vote at meetings
But:
They are not and cannot be ISPs
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What is an NIR?
Where is an NIR?
LIR
APNIC NIR
Closer to RIR?
Yes:
Similar structure, responsibilities and operations
Independent from ISPs
But:
Treated like APNIC members in other respects
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What is an NIR?
Current status
APNIC
NIR
LIR
Can we improve on this?
Efforts so far…
Role and responsibilities (New NIR discussion)
Operational Model
Membership Model
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Role and responsibilities
Core operational responsibility
Review, negotiate and resolve requests
Maintain whois and reverse DNS
Coordinate local policy process
i.e. Same as APNIC’s role
Support and service for LIRs in country
Local language and knowledge
i.e. Opportunity to improve APNIC’s service
and efficiency, to do a better job
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Operational model
Original model…
APNIC
IP
Request
Negotiate
Allocate
NIR
IP
Request
Negotiate
Allocate
LIR
IP
Asynchronous request process
Intermediate pool of addresses held by NIR
Serious fragmentation
Serious address management problem for ISPs
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Operational model
“Agent” model…
APNIC
IP
Approve
NIR
Request
Negotiate
Allocate
Coordinated request/approval/allocation
Single pool of addresses
Greatly reduced fragmentation
Efficient management of address space
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LIR
IP
Operational model
Implication of “Agent” model?
Request
Negotiate
APNIC NIR
IP
Allocate
LIR
IP
NIR operates closer to APNIC
All NIR members/ISPs are APNIC members
NIR is no longer a member but an “agent” in some
closer sense
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Membership Model
Problems raised about fees and voting
No solution proposed yet
But problems taken into account in current
proposal for new categories
Implications of agent model on
membership?
Potentially fundamental change
Needs discussion and initiative from NIRs
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Conclusions?
NIR operating model
Extend “agency” model of allocation?
Standardise for all NIRs and NIR members?
Can we decide this ?
Solution to one major policy issue
NIR membership model?
Need a special member agreement?
Future of NIRs?
Especially: New NIRs in future?
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Questions?
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