Transcript Electronic Medical Records in the Emergency Department The Good

Electronic Medical Records in
the Emergency Department
The downsides…
Neal Chawla, MD
Dept of Emergency Medicine
INOVA Fairfax Hospital
Disclaimer
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While this is a talk about the downsides
of EMR, in my opinion these downsides
are easily outweighed by the upsides
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But there are downsides
Topics
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Information Entry
Too Much Information
Allergy Reactions – The 80/20 Rule
Immature CPOE
Downtime
INFORMATION ENTRY
Information Entry
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What is good?
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We can capture more patient information
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What is bad?
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Someone has to spend TIME entering that
information
Information - Templates
And that’s just the HPI!
(History of Present Illness)
Information
There’s also the Physical Exam
 On every patient…
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Are we done yet???
Information
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Almost. Review of Systems.
Information
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A large percentage of the previous slides
has solely a billing function
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This is before medications, labs, radiology
ordered
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This is not a Medical Decision-Making
note
How much does all this
charting help our patients?
The Most Expensive
Data Entry Clerk
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With EMR, it is estimated that physicians
spend 15 minutes out of every hour
charting
What is the cost?
Average ED Physician making $150/hr
 $37.50/hr spent on charting
 This just the professional rate
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Other costs
◦ Lost Productivity
◦ Time away from patient’s bedside
Any solutions?
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Scribes
◦ Personal Human
Assistant
◦ Follow physicians and
document at bedside
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Macros
◦ Quicker documentation
◦ Drop a normal macro
and change abnormals
◦ Potential to overdocument
◦ Does this help patients??
TOO MUCH
INFORMATION
Too Much Information
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Easy to document a lot of information
◦ Templates, checkboxes, etc.
◦ Macros, Scribes
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Result is fulfilling insurance requirements
for increased billing
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Any benefit to patient care?
Too Much Information
I would argue opposite
 Leads to worse patient care
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Mountain of medical records which takes
a long time to go through
 Little of this information is clinically useful
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◦ Needle in a haystack
Too Much Information
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Is it worth my time to even look at all?
◦ Now I may miss important information
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See sample chart
Autofaxes
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Great Concept!
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When patient leaves the Emergency
Department, automatically fax the chart
to the Primary Care Doctor
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Seems beneficial..
Small Samples from my Inbox..
Why don’t they want our faxes?
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They are about 10 pages long
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The important information can be communicated in a
few lines
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Our EMR can’t parse out the important information,
so it sends everything
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Sometimes you can’t even tell what happened
◦ You are reading checkboxes and dropdowns
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But many EMR’s can’t autofax at all, so still an
improvement, just immature..
ALLERGY REACTIONS –
THE 80/20 RULE
80/20 Rule
You know this rule and it has many
applications in the world
 80% of programming needed for good
patient care software is easier
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◦ The last 20% is much harder, takes into
consideration special circumstances, and takes
much longer
◦ So it is often skipped
80/20 – Allergy Reactions
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Wow! Our system warns
us about possible allergy
reactions
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Wait a minute! Codeine
has no real allergy
reaction with benadryl.
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Codeine doesn’t interact
with Tylenol either
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I have ALERT FATIGUE
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It feels like the boy who
cried wolf
80/20 – Allergy Reactions
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We get warnings about significant
reactions
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We also get many warnings about
insignificant reactions
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We get a flag but it doesn’t tell us what
the actual reaction is
80/20 – Allergy Reactions
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2 problems here..
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We get alert fatigue and learn to skip thru
warnings, so we may miss an important
one
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We see an insignificant warning and
withhold a beneficial medication for a
feared reaction that doesn’t exist in
reality
IMMATURE CPOE
Immature CPOE
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What is good?
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We can order labs electronically
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No more paper
Immature CPOE
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What is bad?
The order-set could be better
 I only order the CSF tests together when
I do a spinal tap, why are they apart?
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Immature CPOE
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Can we improve?
It was a BIG project to get this fixed
 We switched the names so it falls in alpha
order but pointed to the same lab code
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DOWNTIME
Downtime
Systems need to be taken down for
maintenance
 Often 2-4 hours at a time
 Our ED is never quiet for that long
 Labs or imaging or other may have to go
to paper
 This causes workflow problems and
increases chances of a safety event
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Downtime
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We have become dependent on EMR systems
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Going to paper in my mind is an internal disaster
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Results can get lost, we can’t track our patients as
easily, communication breaks down
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This is one of the most dangerous times in the
ED, even with good downtime procedures
EMR - Conclusions
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I would not go back to paper
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EMR has many more benefits than
problems
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But there are downsides
TRAINING
Training
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On paper there is minimal training
required
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For our EMR, I spend 3 hours with each
doc orienting them to our system
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The doc takes about 2-4 weeks to get
comfortable with this system, and is less
productive during this time
Training
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May have a greater effect on nursing
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Especially traveler nurses / locum tenens
◦ Work for approx 3 months, then move on
◦ High cost of training
Training
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Maybe some day…
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EMR’s will be fairly standard and intuitive so
only minimum training is necessary
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We will be a lot more familiar with
computers and EMR’s so training will be
easier
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But that is not today
TOOLS NOT
SOLUTIONS
Tools not Solutions
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EMR’s are often sold as “Solutions.”
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This is sales..
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EMR’s need another 20 years(?) until they
are truly mature and robust
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Currently, they are tools slowly becoming
solutions