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ILIAS WP3 activities report and
ET organization
Harald Lück
04.04.2017
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From 2004 to 2008
WG3 activities changed from technical issues
and planning of 1.5 and 2nd generation
detectors…
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… to ideas and plans for a 3rd
generation observatory
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Main effort in the last year: ET
Design study preparations
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WG3: A European Strategy for
Future Antennas Transparency from
2005 (R. Flaminio)
• Objectives and Delivearbles
- Determine objectives attainable trough short-term improvements
- Draft a plan for an European network of GW detectors at the 2010 horizon
- Short term plan after 18 months
- Long term plan: ‘White book’ defining the GW community objectives over 10 years period
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WP 3: A European strategy for future antennas
Tasks:
Working group and WEB site
set-up
Elaboration of short term
improvement plan
Presentation of short term
plan to institutions
Elaboration of ‘White book’
Presentation of ‘White book’
to institutions
Writing of final report
Deliverables:
Annual Report
WG chaired by H. Lueck (MPI Hannover) and M.Punturo (INFN Perugia)
Palma de Mallorca,
October 24th, 2005
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‚white book‘ -> ASPERA roadmap (Sept. 2007)
•Permanent and postdocs
•Construction and analysis
•No distinction between engineers and
physicists
•Only the agents belonging to
ASPERA or affiliated to it.
•running experiments’ operation
personnel included
• PHDs excluded! This causes a non
negligible error in estimating the
financial impact.
• Investment (R&D+
Construction + Commissioning
+Operation costs)
• No labour included, unless it
is externalised labour (eg hire
people to excavate a large
cavity, prepare a large series of
detectors etc)
•Mostly money demanded from the
agencies affiliated to ASPERA or EU
• LISA not included
• E.T. construction largely external
costs
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Meetings
2004
Date
Meeting Title / Workshop Subject
Location
08/07/04 – 09/07/04
WP3 meeting
21/10/04 – 22/10/04
WP3 meeting
Virgo Site
(Cascina, Italy)
Hannover
27/01/05 – 28/01/05
WP3 meeting
Legnaro
2005
Date
Meeting Title / Workshop Subject
2006
Date
27/04/06 - 28/04/06
Meeting
Title
Workshop Subject
WP3 meeting
/ Location
Florence (Italy)
06/10/06 - 07/10/06
Thermal noise meeting
Virgo Site (Cascina, Italy)
08/02/07
Design Study proposal
Paris (LKB)
23/02/07
DS proposal
(NIKHEF)
Phone Conferences
15/02/07
08/02/07
DS proposal
DS proposal
Location
08/07/04 – 09/07/04
WP3 meeting
21/10/04 – 22/10/04
WP3 meeting
Virgo Site
(Cascina, Italy)
Hannover
27/01/05 – 28/01/05
WP3 meeting
Legnaro
Phone-conference
2008
2007
Date
Date
Meeting Title / Workshop Subject
02/04/07 - 03/04/07
ET DS meeting and first Virgo+ review Cascina,
meeting
Virgo/EGO site (Italy)
16/10/07 - 17/10/07
2nd Virgo+ review meeting
09/01/08 - 10/01/08
Virgo+ EGO review
28/01/08 - 30/01/08
Advanced Virgo session, Virgo week
13/04/07
18/04/07
19/04/07
20/04/07
23/04/07
26/04/07
02/05/07
09/05/07
07/06/07
24/08/07
31/08/07
Strategy definition: ET proposal
Strategy definition: ET proposal
Strategy definition: ET proposal
Strategy definition: ET proposal
Strategy definition: ET proposal
Strategy definition: ET proposal
Strategy definition: ET proposal
Strategy definition: ET proposal
Strategy definition: ET proposal
Strategy definition: ET proposal
Strategy definition: ET proposal
Location
Cascina,
Virgo/EGO site (Italy)
Cascina,
Virgo/EGO site (Italy)
Cascina,
Virgo/EGO site (Italy)
Phone Conferences
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Phone-conference
05/05/08
09/05/08
12/05/08
18/05/08
08/07/08
Meeting Title / Workshop Location
Subject
- EGO – VESF training school
Cascina,
Virgo/EGO site (Italy)
- GWADW 2008 – VESF Isola d’ Elba
meeting
WP3 meeting
APC Paris
Phone Conferences
25/01/08
15/02/08
29/02/08
07/07/08
11/07/08
22/07/08
29/07/08
21/08/08
27/08/08
09/09/08
16/09/08
06/10/08
13/10/08
22/10/08
10/11/08
21/11/08
ET Telecon
ET Telecon
ET Telecon
ET Telecon
MC ITN Telecon
MC ITN Telecon
MC ITN Telecon
MC ITN Telecon
MC ITN Telecon
ET Telecon
ET Telecon
ET Telecon
ET Telecon
ET Telecon
ET Telecon
ET Telecon
Phone-conference
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GraWiToN proposal
• Initial Training Network under the Marie Curie actions
– Training of young scientists on GW theory and experiments
• Submitted in Sept08
• It involves: France, Italy, Germany, UK, Poland and
Spain
• 3M€ overall “typical” budget, 300k€ could be for EGO
• Past the threshold but negligible chances of funding
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STAC Nov2008
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Transparency from early 2007
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First call for proposals
closing in spring 2007
For design studies, preparatory phase, and support actions
design studies: 35 M€
Support actions: 28 M€
(budget 2007-2008)
Indicative budget for preparatory phase:
34 projects (budget 2007-2008)
Closure: 2nd May 2007
First contracts to come into force
before end 2007
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ET: Einstein Telescope
• A European 3rd Generation Gravitational
Wave Observatory
• Conceptual design study started May 2008
• Money available from Sept. 2008 on
(3M€ in total)
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Need for new infrastructure
• Existing facilities subject to high, unshieldable
environmental noise levels (seismic, gravity
gradient noise)
• Data taking with advanced detectors
incompatible with installation of third generation
techniques in same envelope (requires long
comissioning times)
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From the 2nd to the 3rd generation
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1st generation
2nd generation
3rd generation
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3 main noise sources
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1st generation
2nd generation
3rd generation
Seismic
Thermal Noise
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Shot Noise
1000
10000
ET: Working groups
Site and
infrastructure
J. v.d. Brand
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Thermal noise
of mirrors and
suspensions /
cryogenics
F. Ricci
Optical
configuration
A. Freise
Astrophysics
issues
B. S.
Sathyaprakash
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Management
J. Colas
M. Punturo
H. Lück
WG4: Astrophysics Issues
Deduce relative speed of light and
GW’s to ~ 1 sec / 3x109 yrs ~ 10-17
Determine mass of the Graviton
Measure Hubble Constant from
amplitude of inspirals that are also
seen in EM radiation
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WG1: Site & Infrastructure
Issues:
•Scientific
•Security
•Costs
•Legal
•…
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Figure: M.Lorenzini
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WG2: Thermal Noise,
Suspension, Cryogenics
Thermo-Optic Noise
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Coatingless Mirrors
Cryogenics
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Cryo-Materials
WG3: Optical Configuration
High power laser (1064nm, 1550nm)
Squeezed Light
Non-Gaussian beams
WP5:
Management
Administrative Coordination (Jacques Colas)
Scientific
(Michele
Punturo,
HaraldCouncil
Lück) and the Executive board. He is
TheCoordination
Project coordinator
chairs
the Governing
Project
Verify and
promote
of the
scientific
targets
of theofproject.
responsible
forthe
theachievement
correct funds distribution
within the
contractors
the consortium.
Coordinator
His duties are:
• Trace the planning of the overall activities in accordance with the progresses and
Scientific
milestones reached in the different working
packages
Coordinator
Secretary
Virginie
Bornes)
• Facilitate information exchange between WPs
Support
Project
coordinator
coordinator.
• Chair• the
technical
sessions
duringand
the Scientific
project general
meetings
• Responsible
for official
site containing
• Collect
and merge single
WPsweb
contribution
to the bi-annual and annual reports
Secretary
• Documentation of WP progress
• Documentation of meeting activity.
WP1
WP2
WP3
WP4
coordinator coordinator coordinator coordinator
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responsible
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Project Decision Information Flow
Project
Executive board
Governing
Council
Institutions
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Science Team
Scientific community
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Overall effort (proposal numbers)
y 18 people for 3 years
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WP5: Management
Executive board
Project
Coordinator
WP coordinators
Jo v.d. Brand
F. Ricci
Sathyaprakash
A. Freise
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Scientific
Coordinator
Michele Punturo
Harald Lück
J. Colas
GEO,Virgo , ST
representatives
(1 + 1 + 1)
R. Flaminio
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WP5: Management
Science team
• Participation open to all scientists of the GW community
willing to contribute to this project through their expertise
and networking ability.
• Co-chaired (first 6 months) by GEO spokesperson and by
Virgo-EGO Scientific Forum coordinator
The Science Team is to keep continuous contact between
the scientists working in the project with the larger GW
scientific community and to allocate resources (man power
and know-how) available outside the project for all the
activities in the project that need external support
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Timelines
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Virgo
Virgo+
Advanced Virgo
GEO
GEO HF
LIGO
Hanford
Livingston
Advanced LIGO
E-LIGO
LISA
E.T.
Launch Transfer
DS
PCP
1st Generation
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Site
Prep.
data
Construction Comm.
2nd Generation
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data
3rd Gen.