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Submittal of C37.016 as an
IEC/IEEE Dual Logo Document
IEEE Switchgear Committee
Main Committee Meeting
18 October 2007
Review of Dual Logo Process
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Approved IEEE Standards are eligible
for submission
Documents Submitted to the IEC
Standardization Management Board
(SMB) for consideration
The appropriate IEC TC review
document (FDIS ballot). No revisions
can be made.
Document Submitted to SMB
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Voting closed on 15 August 2007
Results of Voting
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Yes=4
No=9
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Comments submitted with negative votes, with
the exception of the Netherlands
Abstention=1 (Japan)
No Response (Hungary)
Comments Received
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Australia
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The Australian NC proposes a negative vote on the above
submission. The Australian National Committee is in
principle agreement with the need of an International
Standard and is in agreement to support the IEEE Standard
published eventually as an IEC-IEEE Standard, however the
adoption of the IEEE Standard should not be done in haste
via the fast track procedure. The requirements in IEEE
C.37.016 should be properly harmonised first with other IEC
publications (IEC 62271.100) and once that is doneAustralia would support the publication.
Brazil
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The Brazilian practice is based on IEC 62271, and the
proposal does not match these requirements.
Comments Received (cont.)
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China
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Sweden
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China does not agree to publish IEEE standard C37.0162006 as FDIS. The document AC/138/2002 is not fulfilled.
The proposed standard should be modified in line with the
document structure requirements of IEC standard.
The Swedish NC approves the submission of the draft and at
the same time requests a DLMT be set up to start the
maintenance work immediately. The work should aim at
better harmonize the standard with existing SC 17A
standards.
Germany
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We note that IEEE C37.016-2006 is overlapping with at least
two projects of SC 17A, namely IEC 62271-103 and IEC
62271-104. Thus, the conditions for processing this IEEE
standard under the dual logo agreement are not fulfilled.
Comments Received (cont.)
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France
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The French NC proposes a negative vote as some rated voltages
used in IEC for switchgear in the lower range (<= 52 kV) are not
covered in the IEEE standard and as the TRV specified for
transformer limited faults are not consistent with those specified in
IEC 62271-100 Ed 1.2. Moreover, SC17A & 17C have defined (see
17A/796/RM) a common boundary at 52 kV between application in
distribution (that includes 52 kV) and those in transmission, such a
distinction should have been taken into account to be in line with
IEC practice.
UK
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The UK NC supports the comments of the French NC. This
document conflicts with the commitment to the common
clauses approach of IEC 60694 and 62271-1 and will
undoubtedly lead to confusion in the market.
Comments Received (cont.)
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Italy
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In the opinion of the Italian NC, the draft proposed, instead
of applying the fast track procedure to it, should be
discussed within an ad hoc WG before, in order to evaluate
possible aspects of extraneousness and inconsistency with
the IEC standards of SC 17A, considering that the FDIS is
totally derived from an IEEE standard. We support the
French comments on this document and cast a negative
vote.
Spain
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IEEE C37.016-2006 overlaps with other IEC standards and
with the programme of work of is IEC/SC 17A. In fact
IEC/SC 17A is working at this moment in prIEC 62271-104
(Switches with a rated voltage ³ 52 kV - Revision of IEC
60265-2:1988) and in prIEC 62271-103 (Switches with a
rated voltage above 1 kV and < 52 kV - Revision of IEC
60265-1:1998).
Key Theme
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Harmonization
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IEC 62271 (Australia, Brazil)
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IEC 62271.100
IEC 60694 (UK)
IEC 62271-1 (UK)
IEC 62271-103 (Germany and Spain)
IEC 62271-104 (Germany and Spain)
IEC 62271-100 Ed 1.2. (France)
Good News
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IEEE has been facing a challenge with
the use of IEEE references
None of the comments received brought
this forward as an issue
Possible Future Support
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Australia
Italy
Sweden
Suggestions for Moving
IEEE Std C37.016 Forward
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Circulate IEEE Std C37.016 as a DC
(Document for Comment) in SC17A
Form a task force within the High Voltage
Circuit Breaker Subcommittee to review the
comments
Based on the comments received, two
potential paths
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Revise IEEE Std C37.016 jointly with IEC SC17A
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Procedures for joint development between IEEE and IEC
currently under development
Resubmit the document for reconsideration to the
IEC SMB
Future Submittals
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Confirm that there is a gap in the IEC library
for the IEEE standard being proposed (per
the terms of the IEC/IEEE Dual Logo
Agreement)
Confirm that the standard is harmonized with
current IEC standards or IEC standards under
development
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Use the same treatment of references as was
done in C37.016
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Since development of an IEEE standard can take
5+ years, work programme/requirements of the
relevant IEC TC may change
Seemed to be successful as no comments were
made at the SMB level
Gather input from the relevant IEC TC/SC
Future Submittals (cont)
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Potential documents for future submittal
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IEEE Std C37.013
IEEE PC37.082
Any others?