Transcript EP Haidt 5x

Chapt
Discussion Question
Discussant 1
Discussant 2
Thanh-Thao
Andy
Discussant 3
1
Name the ways individuals from WEIRD and NONWEIRD cultures are different?
2
What does Shweder mean when he say “we are multiple
from the start”?
Juliann
Clemente
3
Haidt, following Shweder, says “moral monism leads to
societies that are unsatisfying to most people and at
high risk of becoming inhumane”. Why does he say this?
Do you think he’s right?
Erin
In Kee
4
What’s an ad hominem argument? Does Haidt make
one here (or come close to it)?
Jessica
Anne Lise
5
How are Systemizers and Empathizers different?
Nguyen
Tatiana
Erika
6
What is Bentham’s principle of utility? What is a
consequentialist?
Charles
GoEun
Maleny
7
What is Kant’s categorical imperative? What are
deontological ethics?
Vikki
C.J.
8
What is Moral Foundations Theory?
Jasmine
Megan
9
How are moral modules like taste receptors? What’s the
difference between original and current triggers?
Noralie
Adelle
10
Describe the five moral foundations.
Adam
Matt
5
6
Kevin
Patricia
Part II. There’s More to Morality than Harm and Fairness
Chapt 5. Beyond WEIRD Morality
• Haidt tells the dead chicken story and then asks “Can you tell
me why that was wrong?”
• Customer at McDonald’s (after a long pause): “You mean you
don’t know why it’s wrong to do that to a dead chicken? I have
to explain this to you? What planet are you from?”
• Penn students typically judged the behavior in this story as ok (if
strange): “It’s his chicken, he’s eating it, nobody is getting hurt”.
• WEIRD cultures: Western, educated, industrialized, rich and
democratic. The WEIRDer you are the more you see a world full
of separate objects, rather than relationships.
• Similar to Shweder’s distinction of sociocentric vs. individualistic
cultures.
Part II. There’s More to Morality than Harm and Fairness
Chapt 5. Beyond WEIRD Morality
WEIRD
NON-WEIRD
Individualistic
Sociocentric
Autonomy
Interdependency
“I am… happy, outgoing, interested
in jazz…”
Analytic
a son, a husband, an
employee of…”
Holistic
Philosophers Kant, Mill
Durkheim (Chapt 8)
Psychologists Kohlberg, Turiel
Shweder
Predominant moral Harm & fairness
concern
More than harm & fairness:
community, divinity
Part II. There’s More to Morality than Harm and Fairness
Chapt 5. Beyond WEIRD Morality
Shweder: “Yet the conceptions held by others are available to
us, in the sense that when we truly understand their
conception of things we come to recognize possibilities latent
within our own rationality ... and those ways of conceiving of
things become salient for us for the first time, or once again.
In other words, there is no homogenous ‘backcloth’ to our
world. We are multiple from the start.”
Part II. There’s More to Morality than Harm and Fairness
Chapt 5. Beyond WEIRD Morality
Autonomy
People are Autonomous
first & individuals with
foremost: wants, needs, etc
Obligation
Community
Members of larger
entities (families, teams,
armies, comparnies,
tribes, nations)
(To thine own self To play your particular
be true)
role in larger entity
rights, liberty,
Key
justice (also
concepts
harm/care)
duty, hierarchy, respect,
reputation, patriotism
Shweder’s Theory of Morality
Divinity
Temporary vessels
in which a divine
soul has been
implanted
Body is a temple,
not a playground
sanctity & sin,
purity &pollution,
elevation &
degradation
Part II. There’s More to Morality than Harm and Fairness
Chapt 5. Beyond WEIRD Morality
Haidt: “Our minds have the potential to become righteous about
many different concerns, and only a few of these concerns are
activated during childhood. Other potential concerns are [may be]
left undeveloped and unconnected to the web of shared
meanings and values that become our adult moral matrix.
• If you grow up in a WEIRD society, you become so well
educated in the ethic of autonomy that you can detect
oppression and inequality even where the apparent victims see
nothing wrong...
• Conversely, if you are raised in a more traditional society, or
within an evangelical Christian household in the U.S., you
becomes so well educated in the ethics of community and
divinity that you can detect disrespect and degradation even
where the apparent victims see nothing wrong...”
Part II. There’s More to Morality than Harm and Fairness
Chapt 5. Beyond WEIRD Morality
Coming up:
• Catalog of moral intuitions (more than harm and fairness)
• How a small set of innate and universal moral foundations
can be used to construct a great variety of moral matrices
• Tools for understanding moral arguments emanating from
matrices that are not your own