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GEONET Brainstorming
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Purpose of the document
Brainstorming process / plan
Proposed charter
Assumptions
Use cases
Problem description
Solutioning
Security and Privacy
Issues
Related protocols
Action items.
Plans to go forward
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Purpose of the document
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The purpose of this document is to facilitate the brainstorming related to the
GEONET IETF BOF.
The goals of the brainstorming exercise is to iterate over use cases, problem
statements, and potential solutions.
At the end of this exercise we should get to:
• A better definition of the problem statement
• A more complete set of use cases
• An updated proposed charter
• A potential list of documents that the eventual working group would consider.
Brainstorming Process / Plan
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Proposed Plan:
• Use the mailing list to discuss the content of the document.
• Seek volunteers to provide material for the different sections in the document
• Consolidate the contributed material
• Set up a number of web conferences to discuss the document (online BOF)
Pre BOF Proposed Charter
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The group is concerned with Internet-wide geonetworking.
Internet-wide Geo-Networking is a location-aware solution that
provides packet delivery using geographical coordinates for packet
dissemination over the Internet.
The challenges associated with Internet-wide Geonetworking that can be
addressed by IETF are:
o support of geographical addressing: geographical information should
be available in the addressing mechanism;
o support of Internet-wide geo-routing: data packets are forwarded
over multiple hops by using geographical position of destination
node(s);
o precision in representing geographical areas.
Two main scenarios are:
o Environmental Monitoring involves querying devices such as sensors
located in specific geographic areas, for applications such as fire
hazard prevention.
o Vehicular networking used in Intelligent Transportation Systems
(ITS) is required to offer a myriad of applications related to
vehicles, vehicle traffic, drivers, passengers and pedestrians.
Open design issues to be addressed by IETF are:
o Geo-addressing in the wired Internet: standard Internet routers are
not aware of geo-networking functionality: the addresses used must
be regular addresses that are topologically correct and can be
routed to / via the first geo-aware access router, e.g. a Road-Side
Unit.
o Geo-routing forwarding from source node to the correct immediate
geo-aware access router, e.g., RSU, (over existing Internet)
o Exchanging/communicating destination area information
o Lookup and translation of destination (geographical) area to IP
address
o Updating the location database
Security aspects will be considered: influence of the absence of
link-layer security in the operation outside the context of a BSS
(IEEE 802.11p), security of multicast distribution, authenticity of
routing message exchanges, and more.
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The WG will consider and, if necessary - profile, existing IPv6
network protocols: LoST, geopriv WG results, MANET protocols, ICMPv6,
MLDv2, DNS.
Several Standards Development Organizations external to IETF work
towards developing protocols for vehicular communications. In some
cases IP protocols are used for transport, in other cases IP protocols
are modified for purposes particular to vehicular communications. The
WG will survey the following extra-IETF groups: IEEE 802.11 TGp, IEEE
P1609, ETSI TC ITS Networking Group, ISO TC204 WG16, GENIVI Network
Experts Group, AUTOSAR Work Package A2, IPSO. When possible, liaisons
will be established with these organizations.
Work Items
---------Problem statement, use cases, scenarios and requirements of using
geonetworking for vehicular communications, as well as Internet-wide
geonetworking.
Practices and gap analysis for geonetworking for IP vehicular
communications: document practices for the deployment of existing IP
protocols and identify any limitation of the existing IP protocols to
fulfill the scenarios and requirements for geonetworking in IP
vehicular communications.
The use of IPv6 over 802.11p involving a minimum number of intermediary
layers.
Milestones:
Sep 2013 - Submit individual draft on Internet-wide geonetworking
problem statement. (done)
Oct 2013 - Submit individual draft on the use of
IPv6-over-802.11p link layer.
Feb 2014 - Submit Internet-wide geonetworking requirements
Jun 2014 - Submit Internet-wide geonetworking gap analysis
Nov 2014 - Submit Internet-wide geonetworking framework/architecture
Mar 2015 - Submit Internet-wide geonetworking protocol.
Assumption
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• In any solution there has to be a network element that keeps a real time
mapping between IP addresses and geographical area. In one solution I think
it was called a Geoserver. In the other solution it was called EDNS. But seems
to have the same overall function
• There has to be a mechanism for a source to find the Geoserver to retrieve
the IP addresses for the area of interest
• There has to be a mechanism for a device or an intermediary (Router) to
register IP addresses at the Geoserver.
• Just like there is a concept of source node that would send packets to Ips in a
geographic areas, is there the concept of destination node that receives
information from IP addresses in a geographic areas
Problem Description
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• How do we define a geographic area? Is it a point and a radius, or is it more
complex?
• How do we handle overlap and devices that exist in multiple areas
• Is the Geoserver global? Or are there many regional Geoservers?
• How does a device opt in to receive the communication?
• Do we support proxies that register other devices? (RAN, Router in front of a
private network)
• Do we need to worry about these packets traversing private networks or do
we only worry about public IP addresses?
• What is the frequency of updates to the geomapping? Does it depend on
device?
Use Cases
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• Environmental Monitoring involves querying devices such as sensors located
in specific geographic areas, for applications such as fire hazard prevention.
• Vehicular networking used in Intelligent Transportation Systems (ITS) is
required to offer a myriad of applications related to vehicles, vehicle traffic,
drivers, passengers and pedestrians.
• Looking for a webcam in an area
• Localized Marketing offers (attractive Business case)
• Social Networking, Locating friends
• Locating Services
Security and Privacy
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• Since this traffic is not a response to a direct request, and unless there are
laws to allow the sending of the packets. There must be some sort of Optin to
the communication, Also that Opt In should include some details about what
we the device is Opting in to.
• Should there be some mechanism for tagging of sources who abuse the Opt in
rules.
• Will there be a mechanism to scrape to reduce abuse?
• Should sources be authenticate and authorized for types of traffic?
Related Protocols
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draft-hain-ipv6-pi-addr-10
LOST protocol
results of geopriv WG
ILNP, LISP, SHIM6
LOC (and RLOC?) record of DNS
DHCP options location RFC6225
draft-google-self-published-geofeeds-02
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Action Items
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• (1) a focused problem scope, with an updated problem statement draft
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(2) the answers to the questions listed in the below email:
o What are the scaling points?
o What components need to be involved?
o What are the security and privacy considerations?
o What existing work is applicable and what existing work is not
applicable?
o What problems we do NOT want to solve? Most importantly, of course,
who will implement and who will deploy?
(3) a charter