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Introduction to Semiotics of Cultures, 2010
Ronald Barthes
Critics
Vesa Matteo Piludu
University of Helsinki
Positive critics: writing style
Writing stile: clear in the first part of the book
Use of irony: an important rhetoric quality since antiquity
Great capacity to create neologisms.
Positive critics: contents
The phenomena described by Barthes are still present in popular
culture after 50 years, even if they are presented in a different way
Commercials and propaganda’s text are even more idiot, and even
more dangerous
Today we need desperately critical studies about the media
manipulations
Barthes has “opened the way” to media criticism
Positive critics
The book of Barthes was one of the first on popular culture, so it has
opened the way to a new field of study
Barthes applied concepts generally used only in Classical or
Ethnologic studies to popular culture
He demonstrated that our “rational” and modern culture is full of
irrational elements: popular culture is mythological as an ethnic
society
Negative critics: methods
In all the book there the scientific references are very few
The last chapter, the theoretical one, is written later
The writing stile is somewhat obscure and sometimes is not very
easy to connect the speculation with the previous example of popular
myths
The text is theoretically poor: Barthes seems to be inspired only by
De Saussure, structural linguistics, Marx and the existentialist
The ideas of Barthes seems to be strongly self-referential, even if
they are strongly connected to the intellectual environment of the
time
Reference to previous cultural studies are minimal, compared to the
texts of Lévi-Strauss written in the same period
The Barthes’ paradox
Barthes is writing all the time about the importance of history, but in
Mythologies there is few history
He is not describing the origin of the modern myths in detail
Balanced critics: theory
The myths of Barthes works well for simple texts of popular culture
(commercial, political propaganda, blockbuster films)
Not all in popular culture is mythological
And what about polyphony?
Not all in popular culture is so simple and schematic: a song of
Bob Dylan or Leonard Cohen doesn’t fit well in the model, a comic
of Corto Maltese, with references to history and esoterism is much
more complicate that Spider Man or Batgirl
Intertexuality (reference to other texts) exist in popular culture:
in Sympathy for the Devil, the Rolling Stones refers to Bulkakov’s
Master and Margarita
Of course, good and well documented journalism exists, even in
television
Something that fit in the wrestling-villain model
Something that doesn’t fit in the model:
Corto Maltese’s intertextuality
Corto Maltese’s intertextuality?
Corto Maltese: ethnologic attitude and precision
Reference to Danakil tea culture / vs. coffee
Hugo Pratt’s sketches
Actors and interpretation cancelled
The myths of Barthes are cancelling the authors and the
interpretation:
Who is writing commercials? Why?
Who is receiving them? In what way?
We react to commercial and propaganda in the same way?
Obviously not!
Some propaganda texts failed completely
The media power is obviously strong, but not absolute
Popular myths are oppressive, but sometimes ephemeral: pop
icons (singers, actors) changes continuously, they aren’t so strong
and fixed as ancient Greek heroes
There is also dynamism, not only the repetition of the same slogans
Even so…
The negative critics doesn’t cover the value of a classic, that
have inspired other scientists both in positive and negative ways
We are learning also understanding the methodological mistakes of
our predecessor
All the scientific classic are heavily criticized and is a positive
think, part of science: it’s normal
If the relevant scholars aren’t criticized, we step into
religious/scientific sects: a scholar, as Barthes or Lévi-Strauss
became divinized (a myth itself) and the next generation aren’t
producing nothing new
In the ‘70 the blind admiration for Lévi-Strauss has created some
dangerous sects (many scholars has tried to apply his theories to the
most different fields)
Problem:
The ideological or theoric
background have changed
Of course, it is not necessary to have the same political ideas or
theoretical background to read Barthes
Obviously, is not required to be a member of the local MarxistExistentialist-Structuralist party (if something like that has ever
existed) to understand the text
Is not necessary be a fox to study a fox, or a French to study
French literature, or an anthropologist to read Lévi-Strauss
If we read only what fit to our ideals, there is the risk of became
member of scientific sects
the analysis of classics requires, first of all, an open mind and
curiosity
A true scholar masters all scientific literature of his field,
including all that is considered surpassed
It’s difficult to write something new without a deep knowledge
of previous scientific literature
Correct attitude toward a classic
It’s necessary to read, first of all, the essay itself, not just a basic
commentary on the text with a ready-made interpretation
After that, different critics (both positive, negative and balanced)
about the book and the methodology
Comparison with other authors and theories (similar and very
different ones) is always useful
Formation of your own point of view, that should be motivated
seriously, using correctly the bibliography available
The personal point of view should be different from a “personal
opinion” or a “currently accepted opinion”
It too easy to judge an author considering only the last critics: it
leads to scientific conformism (I say so … because all the others,
or the most appreciate scholars are saying so) or scientific fashion
(now the theoretical background is so … let’s follow the river)
Science isn’t Spring-Summer fashion 2010:
Fresh air and all the previous models in the trash!
Science is no inquisition or censorship …
… nor a Society for the Suppression of Vice
And remember … no one is perfect, including us