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THE INTERNATIONAL
INSTITUTE OF
PREDICTIVE ASTROLOGY
[IIPA]:
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INTERNATIONAL CONFERENCE ON
THE SYSTEMS APPROACH TO VEDIC
ASTROLOGY – 2008, GURGAON, INDIA.
“THE LIGHT OF THE SYSTEMS
APPROACH ON THE ETHOS OF
CHINA, INDIA & ICELAND”
Dr. Sankara Bhagavadpada
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GRATITUDE TO
SPIRITUAL MASTERS
Profound gratitude to the beloved living
Spiritual Master, Sri Sri Bhagavan for his
blessings for my Astrological work and for
initiating me into the spheres of Dharma &
Moksha.
Profound gratitude also to the beloved
departed advaitic Spiritual Masters: Sri. J.
Krishnamurti, Sri. Nisargadatta Maharaj & Sri.
Ramana Maharshi – for their blessings in the
spheres of Dharma & Moksha.
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GRATITUDE
TO VEDIC ASTROLOGERS
Profound gratitude to the beloved
Prof. V. K. Choudhry, one of the greatest
living Masters of Vedic astrology , the
founder of ‘The Systems Approach to Vedic
astrology’ — for his original & groundbreaking Astrological research & teachings.
Profound gratitude also to the Vedic
astrologer Pandit Vamadeva Shastri & many
others for having given an initial taste of the
profundity & scope of Vedic astrology.
ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS
 1. For guidance & clarifications through E-mails:
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Prof. V. K. Choudhry,
Mr. Thor Thorgeirsson ,
Mr. Vyas Munidas,
Mr. Jorge Angelino,
Mr. John TWB.
2. For excellent co-operation & the creation of the
PPP:
Sri. S. Kannanji [ My secretary],
Sri. J. Jayakumar [DTP].
3. My family Dr. Prema & Kum. Gayatri for
encouragement & support
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SOURCES: “THE ETHOS OF CHINA,
INDIA & ICELAND - 1
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1. SA for Interpreting Horoscopes, Prof. V. K.
Choudhry & Sri. K. Rajesh Chaudhary [2006]
2. Impact of Ascending Signs, Prof. V. K. Choudhry,
Sagar Publications, 2003
3. SAMVA Dialogues: Prof. V. K. Choudhry , Thor
Thorgeirrson, Vyas Munidas, Jorge Angelino, John
T. W. B.
4. Astrology of the Seers, Vamadeva Shastri, MBD,
2004
5. A Study of History, Arnold Toynbee, Thames &
Hudson, London 1976.
SOURCES: “THE ETHOS OF CHINA,
INDIA & ICELAND - 2
6. China Wakes, Nicholas D. Kristof & Sheryl Wudunn
7. “TRUST”, The Social Virtues and the Creation of
Prosperity, Francis Fukuyama, The Free Press, New
York, 1995
8. “India’s Self-Denial”, Francois Gautier, Edition
Auroville Press International, Auroville, India, 2001
9. “India in Slow Motion”, Mark Tully, Penguin Books,
2002
10. “MAO The Unknown Story”, Jung Chang & Jon
Halliday, Vintage Books, London, 2006
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SYSTEMS APPROACH TO MUNDANE
VEDIC ASTROLOGY [SAMVA]
 Since inception in Nov 2000, the charts of a
large number of Countries have been
rectified and then tested with the accurate
SA Sutras, using numerous TSEs in the lives
of these Countries.
 Prof. V. K. Choudhry suggested the following
Nations: Canada, China, France, Iceland,
India, Iran, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, UK, USA, for
my study of their ethos, using the SA.
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SAMVA RESEARCH:
GROUND ALREADY COVERED-1
 Excellent work of SA
astrologers:
Jorge Angelino,
Thor Thorgeirsson,
Vyas Munidas,
John TWB, &
many other SA
astrologers, whose work
was guided, encouraged
and appreciated by
Prof. V. K. Choudhry.
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 ‘Nation’: A Large group
of people having the
same Culture, History,
Language, inhabiting a
particular geographical
area. [Context:
Emphasis on People,
their values, their
ethos]
 ‘Country’: The territory
of a Nation with its own
Government. [Context:
Political, Geographical]
SAMVA RESEARCH
GROUND ALREADY COVERED-2
 Charts of the foll Countries rectified &
tested through TSEs:
1. Canada
2. China
3. France
4. Iceland
5. India
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6. Iran
7. Pakistan
8. Sri Lanka
9. U.K.
10. U.S.A.
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SAMVA RESEARCH
GROUND ALREADY COVERED-3
 Application of SA Sutras to TSEs in the
lives of many Countries
 Fruits of the Research
1. Verification of the rectified charts & the SA
Sutras
2. Explaining the phenomenon of the new TSEs
with these verified charts & the SA Sutras
3. Predicting with these verified charts & SA Sutras
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SAMVA RESEARCH
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GROUND ALAREADY COVERED-4
 Deducing and deriving new SA Sutras, by
examining new TSEs and new patterns in
the lives of the Countries:
 Example: Sutras on ‘Dictatorship’: Crucial
role of the lords L1, L10, L3 in H3 or L3
influencing H1 or H10.
SAMVA RESEARCH
GROUND ALREADY COVERED-5
 Types of TSEs studied:
1. Wars[Middle East]
2. Natural Calamities such as earthquakes,
volcanic eruptions, floods [Tsunami,
Katrina]
3. Terrorist Attacks
4. Train & Air Accidents
5. Outbreak of Epidemics
6. Labour unrest & strikes
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SAMVA RESEARCH
GROUND ALREADY COVERED-6
7. Share Market up & down swings
8. Arson, Riots
9. Political upheavals like assassinations,
elections, change of governments
10. Military coups
11. Economic Alliances
12. Economic Recessions, etc.
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QUALITATIVE UNDERSTANDING OF 15
THE ETHOS OF CHINA, INDIA & ICELAND
The SA broadly speaking has two aspects
1. Quantitative understanding of Charts & TSEs
through its powerful predictive tools and Sutras.
2. Qualitative understanding of human reality in
terms of the significations of the Signs, Houses &
Planets. Example: “Impatient & hasty” people –
effect of the impact of the VI lord.
SA Sutra: “ The planet ruling the VIH signifies
haste, lack of patience and aggressive attitude.”
SA LIGHT ON THE PAST
VIS A VIS
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SA LIGHT ON THE FUTURE
The Entire Past
of a people is
“enfolded” into:
The Nation’s
Horoscope .
Knowing the
History, the
Horoscope may be
“decoded”, for
“Ethos”
The Horoscope
is“The mood of
God at the
moment of birth
of the Nation.”
Info on the Ethos of
a Nation available
here, in the study of
Karmic Astrology.
SAMVA
Research, as of
now, has
focussed on the
Future Events
[Predictions] &
Future trends.
SHIVA & SHAKTI: IN VA & SA
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 Fixed Zodiacal Signs: Static Shiva [Kala Purusha]
 Dynamically changing Planetary positions:
Dynamic Shakti
 Same 9 Planets describe All spheres of life:
 Spiritual astrology
 Mundane astrology
 Medical astrology
 Passive Shiva [Soul or “Body”]
Active Shakti [Body or “Head”]
People
Govt
 A Samva chart must apply equally to Shiva
[People], as also to Shakti [Govt]
SHIVA-SHAKTI: ARDHANAREESWARA
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HOBBE’S LEVIATHAN
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A collection of people is
not a Nation, it is a crowd.
A Nation is the total
network of relationships
between its peoples and
not a Hobbe’s Leviathan
SA: IVH & VH give
communal harmony, VIIH
gives capacity for
relationships amongst
masses
THE SUTRAS OF THE SA IN MUNDANE
ASTROLOGY
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 IH: People and their
 The Mo: Masses, IV, VII Hs
shared outlook on life.
 Samskaras Sutra: VH, or
IVH, or IIH, or Ju & Su
 “Cultural Inheritance”
Sutra: VIIIH, or IXH, or
IVH, or Su & Mo
 VIIH: Bond of
relationships amongst
masses, tourism
 IIIH: Authors,
Philosophers,
Philosophical thought
 IVH: Peace, Communal
Harmony
 VH: Intellectuals,
Creative Minority, Morals
& Ethics, Communal
Harmony
 IXH: Morality & Religion
‘PSYCHE’ OF A NATION IS LIKE 21
MANY CO-EXISTING PERSONALITIES
 SA Sutras help us to identify each clove in the
orange of the self or psyche of a Nation.
 SA Qualitative Understanding
of the Ethos of a Nation is to
identify each clove in the
orange of its Psyche
ETHOS AS AN INHERITED SAMSKARA
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THE KARMA OF PAST PRECURSORS
ARE CARRIED OVER INTO THE
HOROSCOPE OF A NATION
 Sutra: Cultural
inheritance: VIIIH,
IXH, IVH, Su & Mo
 Purva Punya Sutra:
IXH, IVH
 “Samskaras”: VH,
IVH, IIH, Ju & Su
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CHINA VERSUS THE WEST
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 TIME FRAME
ASCENDENCY OF
CIVILIZATION
 Prior to 1500 CE
China was a vibrant
ancient civilization when
the West was still
insignificant
 1500 to 2000 CE
China: ‘Sleeping’
Europe: Renaissance,
Industrial revolution,
but religion has no sway
over the people
WESTERN: EXPLOSIVE MOVEMENT
CHINESE: PETRIFACTION,
“STONE-DEAD”
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“The Western way is explosive; the Chinese
way – that is to say, the traditional Chinese
way – is petrifying. At the same time, each of
these two ways offers something that is
indispensible for human welfare. The
explosive Western way is dynamic; the
petrifying Chinese way is static.”
- Dialogue between A. J. Toynbee and Chi Tian Da Zuo.
ETHOS OF CHINA-1
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“ The nature of a person is seen
from the IH lord/or IIIH
lord/or IIH lord. Besides, one
of these Hs, we have to see
influences of the planets on
the Asdt…. For judging the
various facets of personalities,
each and every planet will
have to be considered for its
lordships in the chart as well
as its general significations.”
SAMVA CHINA CHART
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Birth Details:
21 Sep 1949, 13:00 Hrs,
Beijing [116E25, 39N55],
TZ = -8 Hrs, CCT.
ETHOS OF CHINA - 2
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C1. Group of 17 Scorpio traits.
C2. Ju as the defacto Asdt lord
C3. The strongest planets are Ve as
XII lord and Ra
C4. Close impact of Ra on the
MEPs of the Asdt, VH
[Enjoyment & Dharma] &
IXH [Dharma & Religion]
C5. Sa-Mo auspicious Rajayoga
formed in the XH of National
Administration
ETHOS OF CHINA - 3
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C6. FM Ma’s close aspect on
strong FM Venus
C7. Me strong in its own
XIH of income & friends
C8. Ke’s close affliction to
all the Kama Hs – selfabnegation Samskara
C9. Ju’s impact on Artha Hs
II, VI & X & the VIIIH
[Ju is defacto Asdt lord]
ETHOS OF CHINA-4
C2. Ju as the defacto Asdt lord
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Ju signifies one of the “selves” of China
Human virtues & values: Jiang Zemin: “ Man is the
most valuable among all things that heaven fosters.”
[Oct 22nd 1999, Cambridge Univ]
Learning & Teaching: “ Independence and selfreliance should not rule out learning from other
countries and drawing upon the fruits of world
Civilizations, since the two are complimentary to each
other.” [Jiang Zemin, 1999]
Jiang Zemin: “ It is absolutely necessary to know the
basic Chinese values in order to have a good
understanding of what has happened and what will
happen in China.”
ETHOS OF CHINA–5
C2. Ju as the defacto Asdt lord
China’s strong Self: Independence,
Discrimination, Intelligence, Wisdom,
Character & Warmth [Mr. S. Kamath]
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Contrast with India:
“ However it must be pointed out the absorption of
the learning process is by no means one of simple
imitation and China cannot copy the development
model of Western Capitalist countries, nor can it
mechanically follow other countries’ model of
building Socialism.” [Jiang Zemin, 1999]
ETHOS OF CHINA – 6
C2. Ju as the defacto Asdt lord
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Jiang Zemin: “ On the contrary, it must take a road
to development that is suited to its National
conditions, namely the road to building Socialism
with Chinese Characteristics, which we have found
through long term practice. Chinese Nation
always loves Freedom & Peace.”
“ Hold faithfulness and sincerity as first
principles.”[From the Analects, 500 BCE]
Ju & the Sa-Mo Rajayoga testify to this. It is also
a Confucian Samskara.
ETHOS OF CHINA – 7
C2. Ju as the defacto Asdt lord
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 Mao Zedong [ Sep 21, 1949]: “ The Chinese have always been a
great, courageous & industrious Nation; it is only in Modern
times that they have fallen behind.” [Ju, Sa-Mo yoga]
 Confucian Samskara: Love of learning [Jupiterean]. “ He who
aims to be a man of complete virtue in his food, does not seek
to gratify his appetite, nor in his dwelling place does he seek
the appliances of ease; he is earnest in what he is doing, and
careful in his speech, he frequents the company of the men of
principle that he may be rectified – such a person may be said
indeed to love to learn.” [Analects, 500 BCE]
 Masters & Teachers respected : Buddhist Teachers [2000 yrs
old], Taoist Teachers [1700 yrs old], Catholic Teachers [w.e.f.
700CE], Islamic Teachers [w.e.f. 700 CE], Protestant Teachers
[w.e.f. 1800 CE]. [ Sa-Mo yoga also contributes]
LEARNING & RESPECT FOR TEACHERS: 34
INDIAN COMPUTER ENGINEER Mr. S. KAMATH
ETHOS OF CHINA-8
C3. The strongest planet is Ve
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1. Cosmic Life Energy Ve: “Propriety, Correctness,
Rightness of behaviour, Sensitivity, Morality, Rules
of Conduct, Harmony”
2. Taoist Samskara [ What is Appropriate, Social
Sensitivity, Propriety]
“ Respectfulness WRP becomes laborious bustle;
Carefulness WRP becomes timidity;
Boldness WRP becomes insubordination;
Straightforwardness WRP becomes rudeness”
WRP = Without Rules of Propriety
ETHOS OF CHINA – 9
Collective Consciousness [Scorpio Asdt]
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 Sa-Mo yoga, Ju &
Scorpio Asdt gives
solidarity of the
masses, since the IVH
& Mo, both signify
masses. This yoga is
formed in the XH of
action , so solidarity is
not an ideal, but an
actuality. The human
pyramid symbolises
this solidarity
ETHOS OF CHINA-10
C5. Sa-Mo auspicious Rajayoga formed in the
XH of National Administration
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Mo-Sa Yoga: Purva Punya in the SA
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Home & Family Life, loved by the “Divine
Mother”, this means Chinese people love home
& family life
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Divine Mother loves education, this means
Chinese people have the blessings of the
Divine Mother to be educated
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Divine Mother loves peasants & factory
workers, this means the Chinese Govt is
benevolent to workers
ETHOS OF CHINA- 11
C5. Sa-Mo auspicious Rajayoga formed in
the XH of National Administration
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“Divine Mother” loves hard work, discipline &
diligence, this means Chinese people are
disciplined and hard working
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Chinese people [Sa] love their teachers, are
dharmic and are good natured, with love of
learning
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Chinese Govt operates through Civil Servants
[Sa] [See next slide]
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Divine Mother loves old people, so Chinese
people love old people
CIVIL SERVICE IN ANCIENT CHINA
PROFICIENCY IN CONFUCIAN CLASSICS
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17th Century,
Chinese Emperor,
conducting the
Civil Service Exam.
Sa-Mo yoga & Ju:
ETHOS OF CHINA – 12
Observers, Confucian Samskaras
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1. Family is important
2. Hierarchical structure of
social life, not egalitarian
[Sa-Mo yoga]
3. Cultivation of virtue &
morality [Sa-Mo yoga] and
self restraint [Scorpio]
4. Emphasis on hard work [SaMo] & achievement [Su]
5. Not individualistic, but
collectivist, family takes
precedence over the
individual [Scorpio]
6. Obedience, Moderation
[Sa,-Mo yoga, strong Su, Ju,
Ve]
ETHOS OF CHINA-13
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Mo-Sa Purva Punya Yoga, Confucian Samskaras
1. “Achieve moral ethics
and improve one’s
spiritual state.” [Ju, Su,
Sa-Mo Yoga]
2. A cultured & refined
civilization – ideals &
virtues shaped human
nature. [Ve, Ju, Su, IXH]
3. “ The one with virtue,
seeks rightness, whereas
the one without virtue
seeks benefit.” Ra on the
Dharma Hs violates this.
ETHOS OF CHINA-14
C8. Ke’s close affliction to all the Kama Hs –
self-abnegation Samskara
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1. “Survive on heavenly
principles, root out
human desire.”
2. Confucianism
became lifeless 1840 2000 CE
3. Confucianism: China,
Japan, Taiwan, South
Korea, Hong Kong,
Singapore, Overseas
Chinese [55 Million]
CHINA’S SCORPIO ASDT:
“PURE”SIGNIFICATIONS - 1
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1. Fixed Water: Fixed Feelings, +ve or –ve, Stubborn,
Hidden Anger against Enemies
2. 8th Sign [Occult]: Introverted, Secretive, “8”
important in China [I CHING – Essence of Chinese
Tradition, 3000 yrs old]
3. Martian Energy: Ready to Defend & Fight,
Fiercely Divisive in defending the self
4. Administrators, Lawyers, Chemists, Detectives,
Army officers, Policemen, Surgeons, “Metals &
Chemicals”
CHINA’S SCORPIO ASDT:
“PURE”SIGNIFICATIONS - 2
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5. Use their Martial Power on a Physical Level,
tendency towards Force & Violence
6. Heterodox 8th Sign: Atheistic [estimated 59%]
7. Slow & Cautious [Typically Chinese Trait]
8. Passion for Techniques or Technologies [Martian],
either inwardly or outwardly: Buddhist
Meditations, Inventions, Martial Arts
CHINA’S SCORPIO ASDT:
“PURE”SIGNIFICATIONS - 3
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9. 8th Sign: Prefer to remain behind the Scenes
10. Self Engrossed [Introverted], concerned with the
“self ”, rather than with the other. “ We the
Chinese people regard independence as the
foundation on which to build the country.” [Jiang
Zemin]{“self-centredness” = strong sense of self}
11. Moksha Sign: Profound understanding of Life,
including Death: Yin –Yang rhythm
CHINA’S SCORPIO ASDT:
“PURE”SIGNIFICATIONS - 4
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12. Passion for Exercises, Atheletics [Olympics] –
Physical side of Martian Energy
13. Determined, Fearless & Willful [Martian]*
14. Disciplined
* {Afflicted IIIH, deb Ma} overwrites the Martian
Courage & shows “lack of confidence” as one
of the driving forces of Communist China
CHINA’S SCORPIO ASDT:
“PURE”SIGNIFICATIONS - 5
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15. Self Defensive [Great Wall of China]
16. Intuitive
17. Good Capacity for Research & Enquiry, Occult
Subjects, notably Astrology
18. “ Sa rules their interest in the possession of real
estate. They are possessive in nature and always
keep on adding to their immovable
properties.” [SA Sutra]
CHINA’S SCORPIO ASDT:
“PURE”SIGNIFICATIONS - 6
Martian Energy: Confucian Samskara
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A. Discrimination, differentiation [Duality]
B. Critical Perception
C. Earthy, i.e., not metaphysical
Pandit Vamadeva: “Mars insists upon greater
independence, differentiation & clarity of views. He
makes us certain about who we are and who our
friends are.”
Manifested as Communism & Atheism
Confucius: “ Do not make friends with those who are
not your equals” [Martian discrimination]
CHINA: SCORPIO’S MARS ENERGY :
“PHYSICAL, MARTIAL & DIVISIVE”
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Length of the
Great Wall 6,000 miles
Age of the
Great Wall 2000 years
ETHOS AS AN INHERITED SAMSKARA
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THE ETHOS OF INDIA – 1
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THE ETHOS OF INDIA – 2
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PAKISTAN VIS-À-VIS INDIA
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RELIGIOUS PLURALITY OF INDIA –
ARISING FROM Ra’s “DISPERSION”
 HINDUS
80.5 %
 MUSLIMS
13.4 %
 CHRISTIANS
2.3 %
 SIKHS
1.8 %
 BUDDHISTS
0.8 %
 JAINS
0.4 %
 OTHERS
0.7 %
[Jews, Parsees, Bahai]
Total
= 100 %
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RELIGIOUS PLURALITY OF INDIA –
ARISING FROM Ra’s “DISPERSION”
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SA SUTRAS
IVH: “Hospitality and Communal Harmony” –
untouched by Ra.
Ra afflicted Dharma Hs
VH: “ Morals & Values, Communal Harmony,
Speculative Investments, Children, Universities,
Intellectuals, Emotional Stability”
IXH: “ Religions, Judicial System, Morality,
Progress & Development ”
HISTORY OF INDIA
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 “ History very seldom records the things that were
decisive but took place behind the veil; it records
the show in front of the curtain.”
- Sri. Aurobindo
 Hindus were told not to take too much pride in
their ancient heritage, to honour Islam, as a religion
as good as Hinduism.
 The Hindu version of India’s History is coming to
the fore once again, after having suffered a more or
less complete eclipse during the twilight of the
British Raj [1947 to 1992]
VARIETIES OF INDIAN HISTORY
1. HINDU
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2. MUSLIM
3. CHRISTIAN
4. BRITISH
5. MARXIST
6. NEHRUVIAN – secularist in post-independent India
*Only one made up of Indigenous sources, literary
& archeological
CONSCIOUSNESS OF BEING
ONE NATION
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“Right from ancient times, there was full consci
ousness, both among Indians as well as among
foreigners, that India was one Nation, irrespective of
the changing borders of the Kingdoms within it.”
- Shrikant G. Talageri
The Vishnu Purana:
Uttaram Yat Samudrasya Himadrescaiva Dakshinam |
Varsam Tad Bharatam Nama, Bharati Yatra Santatihi ||
Land: Bharatavarsha
Citizens: Bharatiyas
MEMORY OF A NATION SA SUTRA:
MEMORY = VH, Mo, Me
“ A nation which forgets, or
falsifies, or willfully ignores, or
glosses over the lessons of its
history, is a nation heading
towards
doom.
And
conversely, when a nation is
intended to be sent to its
doom, a process of falsification
of history can be profitably
launched.”
- Shrikant G. Talageri
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THE ETHOS OF INDIA – 4
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THE ETHOS OF INDIA – 5
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NEHRUVIAN HISTORY SERVED AS A
“SMOKE-SCREEN”
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 For Islamic, Christian,
British, and
Communist
Imperialisms to play
their diabolical game
with full impunity &
even with selfrighteous
aggressiveness.
INDIA’S NATIONAL IDENTITY ?
RAHUVIAN MYTH
{Arising from Ra’s
affliction to the Asdt, VH,
IXH, VIIH.}
Myth: India is still “ A
Nation in the making”
“Leftist propaganda:
India is not nation, but a
conglomerate of nations.
Every linguistic group at
least constitutes a separate
nation.”
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HISTORICAL REALITY :
“We Hindus are a Nation”
[ For thousands of years]
Ra – Ke’s AFFLICTION TO INDIA’s
ASDT
 Leftist’s view: Hatred &
contempt for one’s own
nation, culture, historical
ethos and identity –
these are fundamental
features of the leftist
frame work.
 In India, this has
manifested as a
psychopathic hatred &
contempt for Hinduism,
Hindu nationalism and
Hindu culture.
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 Ra stands for Secularism,
Leftist ideology &
Western approach.
 Ke stands for Hinduism,
which is too attached to
the past and therefore
unable to modify itself, in
the light of present
challenges [Kumbha Mela]
 Ma’s aspect on the IXH &
VH shows Leftist contempt
& hatred for Hindu
Dharma.
THE MALEFIC ENERGIES OF Ra & Ke
THEIR IMPACT ON INDIA
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India is caught between
the Devil [Ra] & the
Deep Sea [Ke]
Ra’s & Ke’s AFFLICTION ON INDIA
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 Ra impacting on
Dharma Hs [I, V, IX],
creates a materialistic
perversion of Sanatana
Dharma.
 Ke impacting on Kama
Hs [VII, XI, III], makes
Indians self-denying,
where fulfillment of
desires are concerned.
THE MULTIPLE LEVELS OF THE
RAHU & KETU ENERGIES
RAHU
ENERGY
LEVELS
KETU
ENERGY
LEVELS
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MULTIPLE SIGNIFICATIONS
[ENERGY LEVELS] OF Ra
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MULTIPLE SIGNIFICATIONS
[ENERGY LEVELS] OF Ke
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INDIA:THE IIIH DEITY
SAIVA SAMPRADAYA
VAISHNAVA SAMPRADAYA
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ABANDON[Ra] & SELF – DENIAL[Ke] as
ABERRATIONS SEEN IN A
DISINTEGRATTING SOCIETY
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MANIFISTAION OF THE Ke ENERGY IN
THE INDIAN ETHOS: KUMBHA MELA
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8TH SIGN SCORPIO:
KETUVIAN BELIEFS OF THE
MASSES
Ke: ALIGINMENT WITH
ANCIENT TRADITION
AND NEGATION OF THE
WORLD [SEPARATIVE
PLANET]
INDIA’S Ke ENERGY MANIFESTING AS
ANCIENT & ARCHAIC TRADITION
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KUMBHA MELA: ANCIENT &
ARCHAIC, “COMPULSIVE,
UNCONSCIOUS BEHAVIOUR”
Ke
ENERGY IN
SCORPIO:
SA SUTRA: “8TH SIGN: BELIEFS
OF THE MASSES, PROFOUND,
MYSTERIOUS”
Ke ENERGY IN THE ETHOS OF INDIA
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Ke: OBSTINATELY
SEPARATE,
NEGATION OF
THE WORLD
SA: “Ke IS PERSONIFIED AS
A SAINT AND TAKES A
PERSON TOWARDS MISTIC
SCIENCES AND SPIRITUAL
PURSUITS”.
ETHOS AS AN INHERITED SAMSKARA
6
5
4
3
2
1
75
THE ETHOS OF ICELAND — 1
76
THE ETHOS OF ICELAND —2
77
Sun
[1948 – 1954]
Moon [1954 – 1964]
Mars [1964 – 1971]
Rahu [1971 – 1989]
Jupiter [1989 – 2005]
Saturn [2005 – 2024]
Mercury[2024 – 2041]
THE ETHOS OF ICELAND —3
78
 Various “Selves”
 1. Virgo Asdt
 2. Strong Ke, closely
aspecting the Asdt, IX
& XI Hs from the VH
 3. Me, as strong Asdt
lord placed in the IXH
of Purva Punya &
‘Father’
 4. Sa’s affliction to the
VII, IV, X, XII, Hs –
spoils ‘social cohesion’
THE ETHOS OF ICELAND —4
79
 Samskara or Purva
Punya: Language &
literary tradition
preserved throughout
the dark ages.
 “ Geneology & language
are the two factors, more
than any others that have
defined Icelandic
ethnicity & nationhood.”
– Terry Lacy in ‘ Ring of Seasons’
THE ETHOS OF ICELAND —5
80
1. SA Sutras: Me energy:
Thinking/Analysis,
Reading,
Writing,
Speaking [language],
Trading
2 Weak Mo, weak VIIH,
weak Ve, Ke’s aspect
on Asdt, show poor
“social cohesion &
isolation”.
THE ETHOS OF ICELAND — 6
81
 Samskara or Purva
Punya: Language &
literary tradition
preserved throughout
the dark ages.
 “ Genealogy & language
are the two factors, more
than any others that have
defined Icelandic
ethnicity & nationhood.”
– Terry Lacy in ‘ Ring of Seasons’
KETU’s IMPACT ON ICELAND — 1
82
1. Orb = 4 degs 38 mts
2. Archaic inclination &
research into the past
[genealogy], attached to
the past [Ke]
3.Ra: Alignment with mass
trends, extreme
extroversion and
enslavement to desires.
4. Ke: Individualistic,
independent, overly
critical, isolated.
KETU’s IMPACT ON ICELAND — 2
83
“The Icelanders’ independence is easily recognized
in Icelanders’ devotion to
both the art of language,
and their own language,
an almost unchanged
version of old Norse.”
 Strong Me: Strong Self &
Language
 Strong Ke: Independence,
Heritage, Genealogy
ICELAND: STRONG Me IN THE IXH
84
 “ A purist movement,
bars borrowing words
from any other language.
Children must also be
given names that are
typically Icelandic..
Iceland has remained so
consistent that school
children can read the
high literature of the
middle ages without
difficulty.” [Eddas &
Sagas]
ICELAND: STRONG Me IN THE IXH
85
 Patronomic system of
Sur naming [ ‘Father
based’]
 All school children
[Me] proficient in
reading ancient
classical literature.
Original progenitor:
King Odin, father on
the Norse gods.
[“Rama” for Icelanders]
ICELAND’S PASSION FOR GENEALOGY
[KE ENERGY: RESEARCH, “ANCIENT”]
85 GENERATIONS OF RECORDED PATRILENEAL DESCENT IN
ICELAND
Priests,
Farmers,
Owners,
Officials
Settlement
of Iceland
from 874 AD
Kings in
Ireland
Scotland
Norway
&
Sweden
Kings of
Troy
(Turkey)
0
200
Time
400
600
800
1000
Years
1200
1400
1600
1800
2000
86
WESTERN & CHINESE INGREDIENTS
NEW WORLD CIVILIZATION
87
“If the present dominance of the West is followed,
as seems likely in the light of comparable past
sequence of events, by a unifying & blending of
cultures, it is conceivable that Western dynamism
might mate with Chinese stability in proportions
that would produce a new way of life for all
mankind – a way that would not only permit
mankind’s survival but would secure its welfare.”
- From A. J. Toynbee’s A Study of History.
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PROF V.K. CHOUDHRY
& DEAR
SA ASTROLOGERS
FOR YOUR PATIENCE
& INTEREST