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Creation Science
A Tremendous Witnessing Tool
Institute for Scientific & Biblical Research
Jan 5, 2012
Mars Hill
Act 17:22 Then Paul stood in the midst of Mars' hill, and said, Ye
men of Athens, I perceive that in all things ye are too
superstitious.
Act 17:23 For as I passed by, and beheld your devotions, I found
an altar with this inscription, TO THE UNKNOWN GOD. Whom
therefore ye ignorantly worship, him declare I unto you.
Act 17:24 God that made the world and all things therein, seeing
that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made
with hands;
Act 17:25 Neither is worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he
giveth to all life, and breath, and all things;
Act 17:26 And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth,
and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;
Act 17:27 That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him,
though he be not far from every one of us:
Act 17:28 For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets
have said, For we are also his offspring.
Act 17:29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead
is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.
Everyone Relates to His Creation
Rom 1:20 For the invisible things of him from
the creation of the world are clearly seen, being
understood by the things that are made, even
his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are
without excuse:
Goal
• Mat 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations….
• Rom 10:14 How then shall they call on him in whom they
have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of
whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without
a preacher?
• Do you see any command for us to “Save” that individual?
• As Frank Turek would say, “It’s not my job to ‘save’ the person.
It’s my job to put a ‘stone’ in his shoe.”
Hurdles / Stumbling Blocks
1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
Does “Truth” Exist?
Does “God” Exist?
Do “Miracles” (Supernatural) Exist?
Who is “Jesus”?
Is the “Bible” True?
6. Death – Resurrection - Salvation
Responses
Response:
In order of our “preference:”
1. They are saved
2. They don’t respond much at all
3. They give a response that you
can’t address
4. They are visibly annoyed
5. They get angry and yell at you
Our Excitement Level:
Perhaps it should be:
5
1
2
3
4
Quick Biblical Review
Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the
heaven and the earth.
When…
Did this happen??
Biblical genealogies show – Very recently.
(Thousands of years, not Billions and Gazillions!)
This can be proven with genealogies that are
unbroken.
Reference
Father
Gen 2:19
Adam
Gen 5:3
Adam
130
Gen 5:4
Adam
930
Gen 5:6
Seth
105
Gen 5:7
Seth
937
Gen 5:9
Enos
90
Gen 5:10
Enos
905
Gen 5:12
Canain
70
Gen 5:13
Canain
910
Gen 5:15
Mahalaleel
65
Gen 5:16
Mahalaleel
895
Gen 5:18
Jared
162
Gen 5:19
Jared
962
Gen 5:21
Enoch
65
Gen 5:22
Enoch
365
Gen 5:25
Methusalah
187
Gen 5:26
Methusalah
969
Gen 5:28-29
Lamech
182
Gen 5:30
Lamech
777
Gen 5:32
Noah
500
Noah
Age
Son
Birthdate
Death
0
Seth
130
930
Enos
235
1042
Canain
325
1140
Mahalaleel
395
1235
Jared
460
1290
Enoch
622
1422
Methusalah
687
987
Lamech
874
1656
Noah
1056
1651
Shem,Ham,Japheth
1556
Gen 11:10
Shem
100
Gen 11:11
Shem
600
Gen 11:12
Arphaxad
35
Gen 11:13
Arphaxad
438
Gen 11:14
Salah
30
Gen 11:15
Salah
433
Gen 11:16
Eber
34
Gen 11:17
Eber
464
Gen 11:18
Peleg
30
Gen 11:19
Peleg
239
Gen 11:20
Reu
32
Gen 11:21
Reu
239
Gen 11:22
Serug
30
Gen 11:23
Serug
230
Gen 11:24
Nahor
29
Gen 11:25
Nahor
148
Gen 11:26
Terah
70
Abram
1946
Gen 21:3
Abram
100
Isaac
2046
Gen 25:26
Isaac
60
Jacob
2106
Gen 30
Jacob
appr 50
Joseph
2156
Joseph
17
Sent to Egypt
2173
Jews in Egypt
430
Gen 37:2,28
Ex 12:40
Arphaxad
1656
2156
Salah
1691
2094
Eber
1721
2124
Peleg
1755
2185
Reu
1785
1994
Serug
1817
2024
Nahor
1847
2047
Terah
1876
1995
2180 to 2610
Quick Biblical Review
• Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the
heaven and the earth.
How long… Did it take for this event to happen??
The Biblical timeframe is 6 days.
1. Gen 1:5 …And the evening and the morning
were the first day.
2. Gen 1:8 …And the evening and the morning
were the second day.
3. Gen 1:13 And the evening and the morning
were the third day.
4. Gen 1:19 And the evening and the morning
were the fourth day.
5. Gen 1:23 And the evening and the morning
were the fifth day.
6. Gen 1:31 And God saw every thing that he had
made, and, behold, it was very good. And the
evening and the morning were the sixth day.
• The days are counted out; first, second, third, etc.
• The word “day” is defined each time as evening and
morning.
• Confirmed multiple times:
– Ex 16: Manna predates 10 Commandments
– Ex 20: 10 Commandments
– Ex 23: The Law (And specifically written again 5 more
times.)
– Ex 24: Glory of the Lord on Mt Sanai
– Ex 31: Reconfirmed; “written with the finger of God.”
– Luke 13:14 Confirmed by Jesus Himself.
• The whole world uses a calendar with a 7 day week.
(Six days of creation plus one day of rest.)
• This is not a trivial matter.
Quick Biblical Review
• “When did it happen” and “How long did it
take” are two colossal issues.
– This is certainly not the only colossal issue, but is
one worth spending a little time on because it is
the “excuse” that so many people have for
discounting God’s word.
– It cannot be reconciled with evolutionary / “deep
time” ideology.
Biblical Order
is True
Evolutionary Order
Is True
Both Biblical & Evolutionary Orders Are
True
The Young Earth By Dr. John Morris
Quick Biblical Review
• “When did it happen” and “How long did it
take” are two colossal issues.
• Rom 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin
entered into the world, and death by sin; and
so death passed upon all men, for that all
have sinned:
– Who is this one man? Adam.
– Do we strike this whole passage because it refers
to Adam?
Quick Biblical Review
• “When did it happen” and “How long did it take”
are two colossal issues.
• Rom 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered
into the world, and death by sin; and so death
passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
• 1Co 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in
Christ shall all be made alive.
– Do we dissect scripture to the point where we believe
we have eternal life through Christ, yet we reject
Adam?
Biblical Order
is True
Evolutionary Order
Is True
Both Biblical & Evolutionary Orders Are
True
The Young Earth By Dr. John Morris
Quick Biblical Review
The two colossal issues:
• Rom 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world,
and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all
have sinned:
• 1Co 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be
made alive.
• Mat 24:38 For as in the days that were before the flood they
were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage,
until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
–
–
–
–
Noah is introduced to us in the 135th verse (out of 7959 verses!)
That’s only 1.7% into God’s word.
The flood has obviously shaped the world as we see it today.
And Jesus fully / unquestionably acknowledges this specific event.
Quick Biblical Review
The two colossal issues.
• Rom 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into
the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon
all men, for that all have sinned:
• 1Co 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall
all be made alive.
• Mat 24:38 For as in the days that were before the
flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and
giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into
the ark,
• Mar 10:6 But from the beginning of the creation God
made them male and female.
– Did Jesus “get it wrong?”
Quick Biblical Review
• This is not just an Old Testament (or Gen 1) issue.
• This is foundational; e.g. it sets the standard for the
fundamental doctrines of scripture.
• Jesus quotes from the Book of Genesis more than any other
Book of the Bible.
Furthermore:
• The “ancient Hebrew manuscript” argument becomes a
moot point. Jesus (the fellow who performs the miracles)
confirms the creation!
• Thus – “creation science” should be a tremendous
witnessing tool!
Quick Biblical Review
• Let’s look at a typical “twisted” ideology:
– “I believe the Bible.”
– “Cover to cover”
– “But, I believe God could have done it billions of years
ago and taken millions of years to do it.”
– In other words, “I believe that Jesus is God and the
key to our salvation, but (when it comes to creation),
Jesus got it wrong.”
– The reality is, “I don’t really believe the Bible. I pick
and choose (based on my own logic and lifestyles)
what parts to accept and what parts to reject.” He
just won’t state it in this manner.
Reasons For This Ideology
Why would people hold to this ideology?
1) They are lost; unsaved. “I don’t want to know.”
2) Inquisitive. “I really want to know.”
3) Not technically oriented and don’t really care
one way or another. “I trust God and His word.
I’ll let Him explain it to me later.”
4) Technically savvy enough to know the difference
but doesn't want to know. “My mind’s made
up.”
1) Lost / Unsaved
Mat 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me,
Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of
heaven.
Jas 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God;
thou doest well: the devils also believe, and
tremble.
Keep planting seeds.
May take years.
2) Inquisitive
Feed them bit by bit.
They’ll keep coming back.
At times they may sound challenging.
May take years.
3) Not Technically Oriented
This really depends on their walk with God.
For some people the “age
Many solid believers fit this
of the earth” question truly
description.
does not distract from their
 Plant an occasional seed
walk with Christ.
as the Lord directs you.
Some of these individuals preach that “age” is a “non-issue.”
 You need to tell them – That’s not true!
It’s a major stumbling block for a lot of unbelievers!
Some of these people just
don’t want to admit that it
does matter. (Their “nontechnical pride” in the way?)
 Keep planting seeds as
you would anyone else.
4) Technically Savvy
They know better!
They are likely using their technical knowledge
to “justify” their lack of trust in God’s word.
Their walk with Christ may be crippled beyond
their recognition.
Other areas of their life are likely “justified” as
well.
Plant a stone in their shoe that will haunt
them until they resolve their issues.
More on “Age”
• www.AuxtBCR.info
• Click on “Articles”
• Click on “Thousands or Billions”
• http://www.auxtbcr.info/Articles.html
So What’s the Point of All of That?
• Creation science can be used to “witness” to
people for many different reasons:
– Directed ultimately towards salvation,
– Directed towards spiritual growth and,
• With people with many different stumbling
blocks:
– Does God exist
– Do miracles exist
– Is the Bible true, etc…….
How do I use “Creation Science”
as a Witnessing Tool?
 Keep in mind,
– It is not our responsibility to save the lost.
– It is our responsibility to plant the seeds (put a
“stone” in their shoe.)
– The greater their rejection, the more the Holy Spirit
may be working on them.
– They can go off on bunny trails faster than you can
address them. Don’t take the bait!
– Just because they raise an objection or issue that you
cannot address, this does not mean that you haven’t
placed a painful stone in their shoe!
Articulation –
“I Just Can’t Articulate Technical Stuff”
 That’s OK.
 Don’t.
 But you can still plant seeds.
 You can still place a stone in their shoe.
How do we do this?
 Ask them to articulate their views.
– Keep asking, “And how does that line up with…..?”
– They may “sound” like they have all the answers.
What you can’t see is what is going on in their head.
You may have placed multiple stones in both shoes.
Ask Questions
Be a good listener
• Why should they listen to you
– If you have not listened to them?
• “Questions” can be the best tool you can
have.
– Eliminates need to “appear” all knowledgeable.
– Takes some of the pressure off of you.
– Leaves them with the questions to address.
Hurdles / Stumbling Blocks
1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
Does “Truth” Exist?
Does “God” Exist?
Do “Miracles” (Supernatural) Exist?
Who is “Jesus”?
Is the “Bible” True?
6. Death – Resurrection – Salvation?
Example #1
The Origin of the Universe
Does God Exist? Do Miracles Exist?
• You are outside talking with someone.
• Strike up a conversation about the “heavens.”
– Clouds & sky in the day,
– Stars & planets at night.
• After both are amazed at the vastness or beauty, ask
– “Where do you believe all of this came from?”
Example #1
The Origin of the Universe (cont)
If they say,
“It came from the Big Bang.”
(Or came from nothing by
any natural cause.)
Respond,
“So, you believe that
everything was made out of
nothing? Doesn’t that
violate some scientific law?”
• This is the First Law of Thermodynamics,
also known as the “Conservation of Mass and Energy.”
• Notice – You don’t need to know anything about that law.
Just casually state, “This is one reason I believe there has to
be an Omnipotent God.” Gen 1, Rom 1:20, Col 1:16
• No matter what tangent that person heads to next – you have
planted a seed, placed a stone in his shoe.
Example #1
The Origin of the Universe (cont)
If they say,
“I believe the
universe has
always been
here.”
Respond,
“So, you believe that everything has been
here forever? ‘Forever’ is a long time.
Don’t things kind of wind down over time?
If the universe has truly been here forever,
Who keeps winding it back up? Doesn’t
that violate some scientific law?”
• This is the Second Law of Thermodynamics,
also known as “Entropy.”
• Notice – (Once again) You don’t need to know anything about
that law. Just casually state, “This is one reason I believe
there has to be an Omnipotent God.”
• Col 1:17, James 1:17 (“shadow of turning” = “Entropy”)
Example #1
The Origin of the Universe (cont)
No matter what tangent that person heads to next – you have
planted a seed, placed a stone in his shoe.
Key Point:
• If the origin of the universe could not have happened by
any “natural” law of physics, then it must have happened
via some sort of “supernatural” event.
• If it happened via a “supernatural” event, then there must
have been an “author” of that supernatural event;
therefore “god” exists.
• If that author can perform one supernatural event, he can
perform others as well; therefore “miracles” also exist.
Example #2
The Origin of Life
Does God Exist?
• You are outside talking with someone.
• Strike up a conversation about the wildlife around you.
– The beauty of flowers and trees,
– The uniqueness of bugs and animals.
• After both are amazed at this beauty and uniqueness
(or anywhere the conversation leads), ask
“Where do you believe ‘life’ came from?”
(By the way, this question stumps even the most ardent atheists.)
Example #2
The Origin of Life (cont)
If he says,
“I don’t know.”
Respond,
“That’s one reason I believe in an
Omnipotent God.”
If he says,
“I believe life
began on a
different planet.”
Respond,
“Doesn’t that just move the problem
from one location to a different
location?”
In this case, he is already admitting that there is a problem, so
just “reinforce” his concern.
Example #2
The Origin of Life (cont)
If he says,
“I believe life was
formed in some
primordial soup.”
Respond,
“Aren’t amino acids ‘left handed,’
and ‘right handed’? Don’t they all
have to be the same?”
Then reinforce your point, “Only a few amino acids are
useful to life. All the others are detrimental. So – It’s not a
matter of ‘probability.’ I believe that it is not even possible
without an Omnipotent God.”
Example #2
The Origin of Life (cont)
• Notice – You don’t even need to know that only some “left
handed” amino acids are used as the building blocks for
protein. All “right handed” amino acids and some “left
handed” amino acids are detrimental to life.
• You don’t need to know that the correct name for this “hand”
feature is “Chirality.”
• Gen 1:27, Gen 2:7
• No matter what tangent that person heads to next – you have
planted a seed, placed a stone in his shoe.
Example #2
The Origin of Life (cont)
Key Point:
• If the origin of life could not have happened by any “natural”
law of physics, then it must have happened via some sort of
“supernatural” event.
• If it happened via a “supernatural” event, then there must
have been an “author” of that supernatural event; therefore
“god” exists.
• If that author can perform one supernatural event, he can
perform others as well; therefore “miracles” also exist.
• (Sound familiar??)
• Keep in mind – Salvation requires “faith,” but not “blind faith.”
Our witnessing tools can be based on what we “see,” not just
what we “can’t see.”
Example #3
Geology - Is the Bible True?
• You are talking to someone and see a rock with visible lines of
strata.
• Driving down the highway seeing a “cut” through the
mountain.
• Seeing strata that is “bent” is even better.
• Talk about the marvels of rocks and crystals.
• OR – The marvels of being able to make cuts for highways.
• Get to the point of the strata, and that it is very often bent.
The sediments had to have been bent before they solidified!
• This is tremendous evidence for the flood. Gen 6-8.
Example #3
Geology (cont)
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•
•
•
You could ask, “Have you ever tried to bend a rock?”
Then agree with him! (We can’t)
Ask, “How do you think it got that way?”
Point out, this strata must have been “bent” while still
pliable / “plastic.”
• Point out, that when you see layer upon layer of bent
of “folded” strata, the “folding” must have occurred
before the bottom layers solidified. Thus, it happened
very quickly. Not over millions of years.
• Then refer him to Matt 24: 37-39 where Jesus
acknowledged the flood as a real event, not a story.
Our “Omnipotent” God
- And Connection to Jesus
• But – Salvation requires Christ. How do we move our
conversation to Christ?
• Notice – In Examples #1 - 2, we referred to our
“Omnipotent” God.
• When we think of the word, “Omnipotent,” we also
think of the word:
– Supernatural, and the concept of
– Miracles
• The word “Omnipotent” is key because ultimately, we
want to “introduce” that Omnipotent God to the
person we are witnessing to.
Miracles
• Once the person recognizes that “miracles” do
exist, then – we need to introduce that person
to the “Individual” that can perform miracles.
• IF a person can perform miracles, what does
that tell us about that person?
The Case
For Christ
The Case For Christ
by Lee Strobel
• The Eyewitness Evidence
• Testing The Eyewitness Evidence
• The Documentary Evidence
– (Are the manuscripts adequately preserved?)
• The Corroborating Evidence
– (Other non-scriptural evidence)
• Scientific Evidence
– (Archaeology)
• The Identity of Jesus
• The Resurrection of Jesus
Side Note
• By now you can see (and we’re just getting started),
this is a huge field!
• Do you need to be an expert on every topic??
• NO!
• Do you need to be able to adequately articulate every
detail that we discuss this evening??
• NO!
• Everyone you witness to will be coming from a
different background with different hang ups.
 Feel free to discuss issues with him as the Lord leads.
 Your job is to place a stone in his shoe.
Side Note (cont)
•
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•
•
Ask questions.
What does this person believe?
Examples #1 and #2 are good for atheists.
Example #3 may be good for someone who believes in
“god,” but maybe not the Bible.
• OR – depending on how you present it, if you focus on the
age with Example #3, you can introduce him to our
Omnipotent God.
• Point being – As you talk with a person and learn where
that person is, you may find an area where you know
enough to simply ask him questions. You don’t need to be
the “expert.”
• Let’s continue with more examples.
Example #4
The Age of Rocks (Is the Bible True)
• You hear someone mention “millions of years.”
• Ask, “That’s an interesting comment. Why do you say that?”
If they say,
“Because of the
age of rocks in the
geologic column”
(or anything to
that effect).
Respond,
“That’s interesting. Are you aware that our
measurement processes have gotten so
precise that it has been shown that traditional
rock dating methods yield as many different
ages (for a single rock) as the number of
testing methods used to age that rock?!”
It is absolutely astounding how many people I have talked to
who don’t know why they believe in millions of years! They’ve
heard it, believe it, and don’t know why.
Isochron Discordance
The Grand Canyon: Monument to Catastrophe by Steve Austin 1994
Rock Ages – For a Single Rock
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•
•
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•
•
Nucleotide
K-Ar
Rb-Sr
Rb-Sr
Pb-Pb
Pb-Pb
Sm-Nd
Sm-Nd
Material
Rock
Rock
Mineral
Rock
Mineral
Rock
Mineral
App Age
841.5 Ma
1055 Ma
1059 Ma
1249 Ma
1249 Ma
1375 Ma
1375 Ma
Half Life
B 1.3B
B 47B
B 47B
A+B
A+B
A 106B
A 106B
(Ma = Millions of years, A = Alpha decay, B = Beta decay)
Example #4
The Age of Rocks (cont)
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These differences are not due to measurement errors.
What went wrong?
The decay rate has not always been constant.
The “longer” the decay rate, the “older” the rock appears
to be.
• When using decay rates of “billions of years,” the rock will
“appear” to be “billions of years” old.
• When using a decay rate of “thousands of years” (like
Carbon-14 dating of diamonds), the age “appears” to be
only “thousands of years.”
• Ask, “Could it be that the earth is only thousands of years
old, as the Bible indicates?”
Example #5
Light From Distant Stars
(Is the Bible True)
You are gazing up at the heavens and someone mentions
“millions of years,” ask, “That’s an interesting comment. Why
would you say that?”
If they say,
“Because otherwise we
couldn’t see the starlight
from stars billions of light
years away.”
Respond,
“Are you sure? The redshift of
starlight indicates that the
universe has expanded, or was
‘stretched out.’ Are you aware
that Scripture states numerous
times that God ‘stretched out
the heavens.’”
• Job 9:8
• Is 42:5
• Is 44:24
• Is 45:12
•
Is 51:13
•
Jer 10:12
•
Jer 51:15
•
Zec 12:1
Example #5
Light From Distant Stars (cont)
• “If the heavens have been ‘stretched out’ as science and the
Bible both indicate, wouldn’t that mean that the galaxies were
once closer together?”
• “Hhhmmm…. Well, since ‘time’ is a function of gravity, which
is a function of how far apart the galaxies are, wouldn’t that
mean that ‘time’ runs at different rates, depending on ‘where’
it is being measured in the cosmos?”
• “Are you aware that there are at least three different theories
consistent with the gravitational effects of general relativity
that indicate that the starlight from distant stars could have
reached earth in 6000 years?”
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  2

ds  1  2 2 c dt  1  2 2  dx  dy 2  dz 2
c 
c 



2

Distant Galaxies
Are Out Here
X
Time is Running
Very Fast
X
 2 1 2
 (r )  2  G   r0  r  for r  r0
3 
You Are Here

TIME is Running
Gm
Very Slow  ( r )  
for r  r0
r
Example #5
Light From Distant Stars (cont)
 Note: You don’t need to be able to articulate these
theories. However, it would be advantageous if you
could remember to direct them to these theories by
Dr. Russell Humphreys and Dr. John Hartnett. They
are available on Creation Ministries International.
(www.creation.com)
Example #6
Light From Distant Stars
Approach #2
Example #5
Light From Distant Stars
(Is the Bible True)
You are gazing up at the heavens and someone mentions
“millions of years,” ask, “That’s an interesting comment. Why
would you say that?”
If they say,
“Because otherwise
we couldn’t see the
starlight from stars
billions of light years
away.”
Respond,
“Are you sure? Did you ever wonder
why everything in Gen 1 was
created ‘mature!’ Keep in mind,
‘Age’ and ‘Maturity’ are two
different things.
(Think of some of your children.”)
Example #6
Light From Distant Stars (cont)
• Gen 1:9 Waters & Land
Separated
• Gen 1:11 Herbs & Fruit
Trees
• Gen 1:11 Soil
• Gen 1:20 Fowl
• Gen 1:21 Great Whales
• Gen 1:24 cattle (behêmâh)
• Gen 1:26 Adam & Eve
• The land was already dry
• Already yielding seeds and
fruit
• Requires soil nutrients
• Already in flight
• Not “baby”whales
• Not calves (bên)
• Not new born infants
In other words, “Did Adam & Eve have a belly button?”
Example #6
Light From Distant Stars (cont)
Event
1. Closing of ductus venosus
2. Closing of ductus
arteriosus
3. Closure of the foramen
ovale
4. DNA “transcription factors”
Evidence of “History”
1. Leaves behind the
ligamentum venosum
2. May leave artery remnants
3. Evidence still remains
4. Must be in the “mature”
state
The nice thing about this witnessing tool is that it is such a perfect
lead into continued witnessing with scripture! Ps 139:14-16
Example #7
Global Warming
(Is the Bible True)
• It’s a hot day and someone complains about global
warming.
• Ask, “Do you feel like it is warmer now than before?”
• Assuming the answer is, “Yes,” ask, “Can you really tell
the difference between a “one degree” temperature
difference between one day and the next?” (Naturally
they cannot.)
• Continue, “If we can’t feel the difference between a
“one degree” temperature change from one day to the
next, do you think you could feel a one degree
temperature change over a hundred years?!?”
Example #7
Global Warming (cont)
• At this point they will probably attempt to dazzle
you with, “Temperature data indicates…,” and
“Fossil fuels cause CO2…”
• At which you could reply, “When we say ‘global
warming,’ doesn’t that imply ‘global temperature
measurements’?”
• And continue, “International temperature scales
didn’t exist until 1968, and even they were
changed in 1990.”
• You know the Chinese proverb, “If I have one
watch I always know what time it is…..”
Example #7
Global Warming (cont)
• The “temperature measurement problem” simply gets their
attention. You could skip straight to the CO2 claim.
“Doesn’t the term ‘fossil fuel’ indicate that this substance
was once part of the ‘living biosphere’ but was buried
sometime in the past?”
• “Are you aware that all ‘fossil fuels’ contain carbon and that
C14 dating methods indicate that they were all buried
about the same time; thousands of years ago, not hundreds
of millions?”
• This is a perfect lead into a discussion on Noah’s flood. Gen
6-8 (And that Noah’s flood took out 99.9% of the biosphere
in one year. Replacing it over hundreds of years should not
cause a problem.)
Example #8
The “Marvels” of Evolution
You are having a conversation with a friend or family
member who expresses “marvel” for the wonders of
evolution.
• Often that “marvel” pertains to the “design” of
something found in nature. Simply ask, “Who do you
believe the Designer was?”
• Often that “marvel” pertains to “character traits.”
Simply ask, “Like Stalin, Hitler, Klebold & Harris
(Columbine), or Breivik (Norway)”
• Matt 7:17-19, Matt 12:33, Luke 6:44, Gal 5:22
Closing Reminders
 We do not have time to go through everything in one
evening.
 Nor do we need to.
 Pick subjects of interest to you.
 You don’t need to be an expert on any subject.
(You can’t be the expert in every field!)
 Be inquisitive. Think of questions you can ask.
 You just want to get them thinking about what they
believe.
 Let the Holy Spirit lead. Will this discussion plant a
seed, leave a stone in his shoe, or lead them to Christ?
Closing Reminders (Cont)
 You do not need to be a “Know it all.”
 In fact, you can play “stupid.” After all, you are just
asking the questions.
 Progress as the Holy Spirit leads.
 One topic may lead to the next.
 Or – Maybe not.
 Don’t forget – they can bring up issues faster than you
can address them. Addressing all these issues is NOT
your job!
 That just leads to “arguments” which are counterproductive.
What If??
WHAT IF?
• What if they ask you a question, and you don’t know
the answer?
– Does it matter?
– Is this a challenge of wits?
– Your goal is to plant the seed or place a stone in his shoe.
• What if they call you “intolerant,” or “stupid?”
– That’s OK. That’s an “ad hominem” and it has nothing to
do with the discussion.
– Call me “ugly,” or “stinky” – but can we get back to the
subject?
What If?? (Cont)
WHAT IF?
• What if they present a pretty good argument that
supports evolution? One you have never even thought
about before?
– Does it matter?
– Is this a challenge of wits?
– Your goal is to plant the seed or place a stone in his shoe.
• This is one reason we have these forums. We can’t
address ALL issues, but hopefully enough that your
faith is never shaken.
• If you like, research the question or ask ISBR.
What If?? (Cont)
WHAT IF?
• What if – “science” isn’t really their hang up??
• What if – “science” is just their excuse?
– Maybe “science” is just their “justification?”
 Redirect the conversation to their “heart.” For
example, “Sir, you seem like a sharp individual.
This sounds more like a ‘heart’ issue. Can you tell
me what is really bothering you?”
 You may find that there is bitterness due to a
death in the family or…….
What If?? (Cont)
• WHAT IF?
• What if the person you are talking to is someone who teaches
a perversion of the gospel to other people?
• What did Jesus say and do in this case?
– Mat 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in
sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
– Mat 12:24 …..This fellow doth not cast out devils, but by
Beelzebub the prince of the devils.
– Jesus’ response to this Pharisee:
Mat 12:34 O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil,
speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart
the mouth speaketh.
Mat 12:37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and
by thy words thou shalt be condemned.
Hurdles / Stumbling Blocks
1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
Does “Truth” Exist?
Does “God” Exist?
Do “Miracles” (Supernatural) Exist?
Who is “Jesus”?
Is the “Bible” True?
6. Death – Resurrection - Salvation
Purpose for Witnessing
• Does God really need your help in saving
people??
• So why does He command us to witness??
• For your benefit – Not His!!
Reflection
Response:
• They are saved
• They don’t respond much at all
• They give a response that you
can’t address
• They are visibly annoyed
• They get angry and yell at you
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•
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Excitement Level:
• 5
• 1 Should be 5
• 2 Should be 5
• 3
• 4
Should be 5
Should be 5
How you feel afterwards doesn’t matter.
Did you plant a seed, or get a stone in his shoe.
Did you receive constructive feedback? If so, use it!
This is your obedience to Christ.
What Would You Like More
Information On???
Creation Science:
1. Detailed Biblical Review
2. Origin of the Universe
3. Origin of Life
4. Geology
5. Age of Rocks
6. Age of Universe
7. Global Warming
8. Other _________________
The Apologetics:
1. Does “Truth” Exist?
2. Does “God” Exist?
3. Do “Miracles”
(Supernatural) Exist?
4. Who is “Jesus”?
5. Is the “Bible” True?
6. Death – Resurrection Salvation
Please circle items of interest and hand to Beverly, Bob, or me.
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