We Can Test the Experience Machine
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Transcript We Can Test the Experience Machine
Dan Weijers
Victoria University of Wellington
June 2011
Lots of experimental philosophy is designed to test
empirical premises like: ‘We would not plug in’
“Philosophers working in… ‘experimental philosophy’
have begun… to collect data about folk intuitions”
Nahmias, E., et al. (2007). Surveying Freedom: Folk Intuitions about Free Will and Moral
Responsibility, Philosophical Psychology, 18(5): 561.
But lots also just wants to understand how judgements
about thought experiments are formed:
“[To] use the methods of experimental psychology to
probe the way people make judgments that bear on
debates in philosophy”
Nadelhoffer, T. & Nahmias, E. (2007). The Past and Future of Experimental Philosophy,
Philosophical Explorations, 10(2): 123.
Typical argument:
1.
2.
3.
If pleasure = g. good, then we’d plug in
We would not plug in
Therefore, pleasure ≠ g. good
Test P2 (if true, go to next step, if false, then claim the
argument fails)
ACP: you did a faulty test: the wrong ‘we’ or procedural bias
Tweak supposedly irrelevant factor of thought experiment,
test again, and compare results (if different in right way,
claim that P1 is false because irrelevant factors unduly
influence judgements)
ACP: You did a faulty test: the wrong ‘we’, or procedural bias,
or added other irrelevant factors with your tweak
We can’t usefully test thought experiments with surveys
when…
Respondents need to adopt the role of confronted
agents…
i.e. when they have to predict what they would do if the
scenario were real
Usually involves “confusion, incredulity, fear, etc.”
Smith, B. (2011). Can We Test the Experience Machine?, Ethical Perspectives, 18(1): 45.
Because participants’ judgements about what they would
do would otherwise not be made from the correct frame of
mind… leading to the possibility that
They might report what they think they should do or what the
experimenter wants to hear instead of what they would
actually do
Our survey tests of thought experiments are less useful
to the extent that:
Respondents need to adopt the role of confronted
agents
When they “anticipate their own futures”, and/or
They “identify with the moral decisions of others”
Smith, B. (2011). Can We Test the Experience Machine?, Ethical Perspectives, 18(1): 46.
The survey suffers from methodological weaknesses
Sampling
Participant ineptitude
Procedural bias: prepping, wording, question order (Grice)
“…the inverted experience machine, as well as
other[s]… have a unique set of characteristics that
make it impossible to gather the right subjects to test.
Therefore, in practice, these thought experiments are
impossible to test.”
Smith, B. (2011). Can We Test the Experience Machine?, Ethical Perspectives, 18(1): 37. (My
emphasis)
“…unique set of characteristics…”:
Requirement that participants adopt the role of confronted
agents
When they “anticipate their own futures” – e.g. when asked ‘what
would you do?’
Requirement for being a partially confronted agent: When they
“anticipate their own futures…, or attempt to identify with the
moral decisions of others, to some extent” (Smith, 2011, p 46)
Setup makes it impossible for participants to adopt the role of
confronted agents
Surveys “that address thought experiments about moral dilemmas”
(Smith, 2011, p 44) – Infer: all options involve significant losses?
Participants opinion asked for via survey, rather than behaviour
observed in actual case (Smith, 2011, p 39 + elsewhere)
Requirement that participants adopt the role of
confronted agents:
When they “anticipate their own futures” (Smith, 2011, p
46) – e.g. ask ‘what would you do?’
This requirement is not met
‘Anticipating their own futures’ is not a necessary aspect of
the Inverted Experience Machine
E.g. What should a stranger choose in the Inverted Experience
Machine case?
Requirement for being a partially confronted agent:
When they “anticipate their own futures…, or attempt to
identify with the moral decisions of others, to some
extent” (Smith, 2011, p 46)
This requirement is faulty
Just because participants have to “attempt to identify with
the moral decisions of others” does not always mean that
they need to get (at all) emotional to give a useful response
In fact making rational (not emotional) decisions is what we
expect of those making important decisions on behalf of
others in lots of cases
E.g. policymakers – should uni be free?
Amended requirement for being a partially
confronted agent:
When they “anticipate their own futures…, or attempt to
identify with the moral decisions of others, to some
extent [in some cases]”
This requirement does not apply to some cases of testing the
Inverted Experience Machine
When deciding if someone should stick with a machine life
or go to reality we are better of putting emotions (“confusion,
incredulity, fear, etc.”) behind us.
And, when trying to learn about what people think we should
really value in a life, the same goes
It’s not clear where Smith stands on this
If we can’t test the IEM because we don’t get
emotional, can philosophers make any use of it?
Did anyone feel “confusion, incredulity, and fear etc.”
about the thought experiments?
If not, then (according to Smith’s framework) your
judgement about it is useless
Maybe Smith doesn’t mind this result – I’m not sure
Smith 1: thought experiments that require confronted
agent respondents cannot be usefully surveyed
because the appropriate emotions don’t come up
Smith 2: Inverted Exp. Mach. requires confronted
agent respondents
Smith 3: Therefore, Inverted Exp. Mach. cannot be
usefully surveyed
Me: not all Inverted Exp. Mach.’s require confronted
agent respondents
Me: if Smith 1 is correct, then all use of dilemmas in
philosophy is a waste of time or at least less useful than
is usually thought