Transcript Manage-2000 7.1 Upgrade

Manage-2000 7.1 Upgrade
The Real Story
Manage-2000 7.1 Upgrade – The Real Story
Cost
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Epicor Services and Cost
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Your “Upgrade” is free. All you have to do is
install it, or have someone install it.
Epicor offers a “flat fee” upgrade based on how
many “.MAIN” accounts you have. This “flat fee”
would not include custom code. - $8000 for 1st
.MAIN, and then $225 / hour for additional.
Manage-2000 7.1 Upgrade – The Real Story
Cost
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Duel Release or Development Server
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If UNIX – Duel Release if your current release is compatible.
(Meaning HP/UX 11) If your not current you have options:
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Upgrade your current Manage-2000 to HP/UX 11
Buy a new server for cutover testing
If NT/2000 – Development Server
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Hardware - $1,000-2000 and UP
Windows - $700
Manage-2000 Licenses. (For example buy more, or move unused.)
Again, your CAM can give you specific samples of your costs. –
Enterprise Seat: $2,900
Manage-2000 “Disaster Recovery License” Enterprise - $1,700
If you do not add licenses, you will need to move them from your
production server. (Know how many you have, and how many you
need)
Manage-2000 7.1 Upgrade – The Real Story
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Custom Code
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A custom code audit can reveal how much custom code you
currently have. For an actual upgrade this is required.
Consider removing all custom code, and re-justifying the
need for it thru testing. Re-custom as justified.
Custom code can become the most expensive component
of your upgrade very easily.
Custom code is billed BY THE HOUR.
Epicor now offers support for custom code. Meaning you
get it as part of your upgrade. The cost for this is 20% of
the custom code cost.
Manage-2000 7.1 Upgrade – The Real Story
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New Requirements (Depending on your current
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Redback (Some on 7.0 have it, Nobody on 6.x does)
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Required to serve up “Portals”
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LOOK.SO, LOOK.PO, ACTIVITY, STOCK, Etc etc etc
A Redback Responder consumes a UniData and Manage2000 license. - $4,500
Each .MAIN or .TRAIN account needs its own responder.
Each Account can also have multiple responders depending
on your load.
The “Official” number is 1 responder for every 10 users.
– Brinly is using 1 responder for 40 users.
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Manage-2000 7.1 Upgrade – The Real Story
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New Requirements (Depending on your current
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A Web Server - $1000-$2000 and up plus $700 for
Windows.
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Required to serve up “Portals”
Must be Windows 2000 or 2003 Server. (No matter what your
Data server is running. For example, UNIX still needs a
Windows web server.)
Should have loads of RAM. (read: cram as much RAM in there
as your budget can afford)
Should not be on the same server as the Database Server.
Can host multiple .MAIN and .TRAIN accounts on 1 host.
Manage-2000 7.1 Upgrade – The Real Story
Cost
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New Requirements (Depending on your
current release)
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Visual Studio .NET - $645
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Required if you want to change things in the Portals
Infragistics - $495
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Also Required if you want to change things in the
Portals.
Provides many UI elements in portals.
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Menus, Buttons, etc etc.
Manage-2000 7.1 Upgrade – The Real Story
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New Requirements (Depending on your current
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Enterprise License
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Allows you to use Manage-2000 in a device mode instead of a
session mode.
Each device can use up to 10 sessions using 1 seat or license.
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PWS
– Delphi
– EpiEdit
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Keep in mind that the Portals are driven thru Redback and it
consumes its own seat as outlined before. (20 users in a
portal are still 1 seat)
Manage-2000 7.1 Upgrade – The Real Story
Benefits
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Portals – Information is linked.
Less Delphi – Mostly only .CONSTANTS now.
Propaganda:
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A2K - $15,000
Clientele
Optio - $10,400
FEATURE.SUMMARY Review.
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fs_7_1.pdf
Manage-2000 7.1 Upgrade
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Break Time
Manage-2000 7.1 Upgrade – Unix vs NT
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UNIX Benefits
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Configuration is more flexible.
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One host can run multiple versions of Manage-2000
System scales up easier (100+ users)
More acceptable to open source.
Manage-2000 7.1 Upgrade – Unix vs NT
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UNIX Cons
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System hardware is more costly.
Requires another level of knowledge (UNIX)
Does not integrate easily into Windows
environment.
Manage-2000 7.1 Upgrade – Unix vs NT
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Windows Benefits
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Configuration is easier.
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Mostly point and click.
Management is easier.
Integrates into existing windows network easily.
Hardware is cheap, and can use standard PC
components.
Manage-2000 7.1 Upgrade – Unix vs NT
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Windows Cons
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Windows does not offer some of the same level of
“detail” as a UNIX host does.
Windows does not scale well on very high user
count sites.
There are more windows hackers than unix
hackers.